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@novapaddy/ @fabfeingold - Would it be OK if you can help me make a map based on this for a little mod I've been working on once this is done)
 
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@novapaddy/ @fabfeingold - Would it be OK if you can help me make a map based on this for a little mod I've been working on once this is done)

I can give you advice.

UPDATE:

All the errors are corrected. The DHFull game opens now with no errors.

All I need to do now is to check stuff like the division of France in 1940, the division of Poland from the Mol-Rib pact. I mean the big events and ensure the correct provinces are passing to the correct states.

After that, all is done at my end.
 

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So ... after literally 1000s of hours the map is finally finished. I am just posting some images so that you can all get a feel for the new look. I'll post a link to the map files soon. Still some clean up database work to do. I really hope you like it.









Wow it looks great! What's going on with the amount of IC and infra?
 

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I can give you advice.

Unfortunately, AFAIK the link to the Map tools are not working, and I don't have a working version

That really depends on the amount of work involved. In theory yes.

Mostly, it's to split/merge and rename a good number of provinces, namely:

1) Split Lander in two to better reflect the Continental Divide (since that will be the border)
2) Merge West and East Berlin into a single province (the Cold War divide isn't needed for my mod)
3) Merge a number of provinces for obscure border changes in Transylvania and Galicia
4) Rename a bunch of provinces (I've yet to come up with the full list)
5) Other changes I've yet to enumerate
 

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Merging and splitting provinces is really quite timeconsuming. But if it’s just 5-6 I’ll do it.

Yeah, right now, I just want Lander split at the Continental Divide and both Berlins merged
 

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Ok. I am afraid we decided that there won’t be anymore changes done to this map by us. First, I am actually kind of fed up doing map work. Second, we cannot accommodate every wish even if it involves just small changes. Third, we don’t want there to be dozens of versions of this map out there. All it would do is to confuse the modding community. Everyone is free to use the E3-FN map for their mods as it is, as long as you don’t make any changes to the map itself. I am sorry but that is how it has to be.
 
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Ok. I am afraid we decided that there won’t be anymore changes done to this map by us. First, I am actually kind of fed up doing map work. Second, we cannot accommodate every wish even if it involves just small changes. Third, we don’t want there to be dozens of versions of this map out there. All it would do is to confuse the modding community. Everyone is free to use the E3-FN map for their mods as it is, as long as you don’t make any changes to the map itself. I am sorry but that is how it has to be.

Well, can I still use the old version of the map, because I tried loading it up but it crashed in my laptop, which was why I turned to you guys. (I was using a mod for v. 1.04 for 1.05 and I kind of still like the provinces out there)

Also, if you're not going to make the changes, can I at least have the map tools to make those changes (at least to the classic E3 map) myself
 

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Well, can I still use the old version of the map, because I tried loading it up but it crashed in my laptop, which was why I turned to you guys. (I was using a mod for v. 1.04 for 1.05 and I kind of still like the provinces out there)

Also, if you're not going to make the changes, can I at least have the map tools to make those changes (at least to the classic E3 map) myself

The original E3 map was the work of mumia. A team of guys including me, made significant improvements to that map. I mean in naming sea provinces etc etc.
I now look on mumia as some genius GOD of map-making. He did all of that work by himself and he deserves our respect and thanks.

Using the E3 map for the putin mod, it was found that it was slow, especially when a lot of countries are at war at the same time.

This led to this E3-FN map (fabfeingold-novapaddy) map. This map has been totally redrawn by Fabian. Whereas the E3 map had ~8000 provinces, this map has 6800+ provinces. The provinces all have different IDs to those in the E3 map.

Fabian has done the physical map. I have ported Darkest Hour Full 1936 scenario to this map. My work is now complete. I am at the stage of tidying up and looking to see what else can be done before release. Together we have spent a year + in hard manual toil to get to this stage.

This is not a software map. I only wish it was. It is a manually created map, and the thousands of files have been manually ported to this map, one line at a time.

As such, I'm sure you can understand that now at the end of this journey, we feel exhausted and would just like to publish it asap.

.................

I can say from experience of doing this map, you would be mad to try creating your own map. It is just too much. I'm sure Fabian would now agree with me. I am so glad that it is almost done, as there are so many other projects that have been stopped so I could work on this.

All Hail fabfeingold the new God of Map-Making.
 

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The original E3 map was the work of mumia. A team of guys including me, made significant improvements to that map. I mean in naming sea provinces etc etc.
I now look on mumia as some genius GOD of map-making. He did all of that work by himself and he deserves our respect and thanks.

Using the E3 map for the putin mod, it was found that it was slow, especially when a lot of countries are at war at the same time.

This led to this E3-FN map (fabfeingold-novapaddy) map. This map has been totally redrawn by Fabian. Whereas the E3 map had ~8000 provinces, this map has 6800+ provinces. The provinces all have different IDs to those in the E3 map.

Fabian has done the physical map. I have ported Darkest Hour Full 1936 scenario to this map. My work is now complete. I am at the stage of tidying up and looking to see what else can be done before release. Together we have spent a year + in hard manual toil to get to this stage.

This is not a software map. I only wish it was. It is a manually created map, and the thousands of files have been manually ported to this map, one line at a time.

As such, I'm sure you can understand that now at the end of this journey, we feel exhausted and would just like to publish it asap.

.................

I can say from experience of doing this map, you would be mad to try creating your own map. It is just too much. I'm sure Fabian would now agree with me. I am so glad that it is almost done, as there are so many other projects that have been stopped so I could work on this.

All Hail fabfeingold the new God of Map-Making.

I don't even have to make an entirely new map. I could just make various changes to the v.1.04 E3 map as I see fit.
 

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And by the way @fabfeingold/@novapaddy, the reason why I want to split Lander is this: (attached in the post)

As you can see, Alaska (which is wracked in civil war at the start of my mod's scenario) has its borders set on the Continental Divide, something which is impossible to replicate with Lander merged with another province east of the divide.

EDIT: In case you guys don't see the full-map, here's a closeup on Alaska (note Lander in the SE):
p4RX4E1.jpg
 

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Hello? Do you think I look at the forum all day? I’ll upload you a working version of the mapmaker you can then do it yourself. I am happy to also answer any questions you might have. But you might consider altering your attitude a bit.
 

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Hello? Do you think I look at the forum all day? I’ll upload you a working version of the mapmaker you can then do it yourself. I am happy to also answer any questions you might have. But you might consider altering your attitude a bit.

Sorry, I'm just a little impatient maybe, because I want to get this mod going.

Also, have you looked into my previous comment (with the images and all) as to why I'm so dead set on splitting Lander?
 

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@fabfeingold - So when are you going to release the maptools so I can make those changes myself.