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MOD currently not necessary as are issues are fixed with v2.6.2.

Discouraged by the lack of the response for the list of the converted issues thread: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/2-3-2-converter-issues.829916/, I decided to create my own small modification that will fix ones that I am able to fix by myself ( fixed issues are bolded). Until now I have used this modification privately, hopping that the fixes will be included in next major patch, but as there are no major (unfixable by mod) issues with current patch, I decided to release it in public.

This mod does not aim to improve/change the conversion working, it only only created to provide fixes to obvious bugs. Given that is not aimed to compete with Vanilla Converted Improved mod. The mod is ironman compatible.

Download link: https://github.com/tomaszkam/vcf/archive/v0.8.zip

Changelog:

Older versions:
Version 0.8 (CK2 v2.6.1, EU4 v1.17.1)
No new fixes. Updated the files to work with
newest patches correctly.

Version 0.7.1 (CK2 v2.5.2, EU4 v1.15.1)
Fixes following problems:
F1. Nations in High American technology group sees (not covered by TI)
only provinces that are owned by this nations.
* Generated as list of the provinces that are discovered in vanilla
* by one of following technology groups: south_american, andean,
* mesoamerican, north_american and performed set difference with
* list of provinces that are discovered by high_american in SI conversion.
* For each province that was left, province_no.txt files was generated
* with "discovered_by = high_american" content.
* Some of this provinces overlap with list of provinces that was
* discovered by Aztec only for SI cost, so same files get overridden,
* however following duplicate entries shall be removed in case
* of merge:
* * 1508 - SI Coast.txt
* * 1509 - SI Coast.txt
* * 1510 - SI Coast.txt
* * 1550 - SI Coast.txt
* * 1552 - SI Coast.txt
* * 1553 - SI Coast.txt
H1. Removed diacretic symbols from Leon mapping.
C10. Added converted_misc_l_english.yml

Version 0.7 (CK2 v2.4.5, EU4 v1.14)
Fixes following problems:
2A1. Hansa is now mapped to Lubeck.
* Mapped c_lubeck to HSA tag instead of Hansa.
2A2. Jewish custom fourth idea "Jewish Trade Tradition" is using
non existing modifier "global_trade_income_modifier"
* Replaced global_trade_income_modifier with trade_efficiency
* with same value.
2A3. Karling custom fifth ideas "Legacy of Romans" is using non
existing modifier "build_power_cost".
* Replaced build_power_cost with development_cost with same value.
2F2. Inca custom fourth idea "Official Axe-monies" is using non existing
modifier "global_trade_income_modifier".
* Replaced global_trade_income_modifier with trade_efficiency
* with same value.

Version 0.6.3 (CK2 v2.4.5, EU4 v1.13)
Incorporates dynasty trigger fix from Glanzor.

Fixes following problems:
A11, A15. Corrected fix for dynasty ideas.
* Added NOT = { dynasty = no } trigger, as suggested by Glanzor,
* for all ideas using dynasty trigger. This fix it being applied
* for nations without dynasties and newly created countries.
* Removed monarchy trigger from Anatolian, Mameluks and Ottoman ideas.

Version 0.6.3 (CK2 v2.4.5, EU4 v1.13)
Incorporates dynasty trigger fix from Glanzor.

Fixes following problems:
A11, A15. Corrected fix for dynasty ideas.
* Added NOT = { dynasty = no } trigger, as suggested by Glanzor,
* for all ideas using dynasty trigger. This fix it being applied
* for nations without dynasties and newly created countries.
* Removed monarchy trigger from Anatolian, Mameluks and Ottoman ideas.

Version 0.6.2 (CK2 v2.4.4, EU4 v1.13)
Incorporates national ideas fixes from Glanzor.

Fixes following problems:
A15. Mameluks ideas are not correctly applied.
* Changed egyptian_arabic to proper EU4 culture
* group: al_misr_arabic.
A16. Granada ideas are not correctly applied.
* Changed incorrect culture trigger to primary_culture.
A17. South Indian group ideas are not correctly applied.
* Change trigger so now it requires jain or hinduism religion,
* instead of both of them at once.

Version 0.6.1 (CK2 v2.4.4, EU4 v1.13)
Removes fixes present in 31.08.2015 update.

Removes update for supported version.

Removes following fixes:
A9. Church of Zun does not have custom rebels.
A10. Zoroastrian and Tengri is marked as marked as custom religion in
religion_table.csv. They special localization and rebels are not
removed.
* The update contain only the rebel fixes. The religion table
* entries and localisation for heresies are still present.

Version 0.6 (CK2 v2.4.4, EU4 v1.13):
Updates supported_version to v1.13.

Fixes following problems:
A12. Lancaster is converting to Florence, York to Andhra.
* Removed mapping in nation_table.csv for two of four
* reused tags: LAN and YOR.
A14. The Hoya province is not mapped correctly.
* Fixed malformed province_table.csv entries as follows:
* c_lombardia;2979;2979 - Novarra;Lombardia - Novarra
* c_pavia;2979;2979 - Novarra;Pavia - Novarra
* c_tharasset;347;347 - Ifni;Tharasset - Ifni
* c_mountain_cheremisa;304;304 - Pensa;Mountain Cheremisa - Pensa
B5. Nestorian and Messalian convert to Coptic religion instead of
Orthodox.
* Changed the religion table so the Nestorian and Messalian converts
* to Orthodox instead of the Coptic without SoA.
* Also reverted icon of custom heresies created with SoA back
* to Orothodox (D2 bug).
H5. New tags from 1.13
* Add new country mappings:
* c_malta;JAI;Malta;Malta County
* c_maldives;DGL;Maldives;Maldives County
* k_andhra;YOR;Andhra;Andhra Kingdom

Version 0.5:
Fixes following problems:
A11. Countries in North America that does not have their own nation
ideas are getting "Anatolian" ideas.
* Fixed the triggers for anatolian_beyliks_ideas so it only
* applies for the monarchies, with prevents them from applying
* for countries with a ruler without dynasty.
* Improved "F6. Nations in North America converted from native_council
* are in the interregnum state, as they do not have ruler specified."
* by adding dynasty tag from to newly added rules so ideas based
* only on dynasty tags no longer applies to them.

Version 0.4:
Fixes following problems:
C10. The BOM mark used in localisation files is not handled correctly
* Added fixup.sh script that remove character created generated
* by incorrect BOM handling fixing the localisation problems.

Version 0.3:
Fixes following problems:
C10. The BOM mark used in localisation files is not handled correctly
* Added fixup.sh script that remove character created generated
* by incorrect BOM handling fixing the localisation problems.
H5. Map extension from CK2 2.4
* Added following mappings for countries added in CK2 v2.4
* e_chagatai;CHG;ChagataiKhanate;Chagatai Khanate
* c_yarkand;KAS;Yarkand;Yarkand County

Removed fixed for following issues that are part of 2.4.1:
A5. Nomad technology group is referenced as "nomad" instead of "nomad_group",
which causes countries to end up with notechgroup after conversion.
When the game is converted from 'The Hundred Years Wars' is affects
Golden Horde.
D5. Ibadi heresies (Kharijite) are getting Sunni religion icon instead of Ibadi
D7. Zoroastrian heresies (Manichean, Mazdaki) are using Tengri religion icon
instead of Zoroastrian.
E6. CK2 Prussian is still mapping to Old Prussian that was removed from EU4
in 1.12. Now it converts to no culture.
F7. Inca and Aztec has nogoverment goverment tyoe after conversion. The problem
is caused by the fact that old 'government = imperial_government' is used
in the file, instead of new rank system.

Version 0.2:
Fixes following problems:
A9. Church of Zun does not have custom rebels.
* Corrected entry under "Zunist Reformed rebels. Disgruntled fanatics." to refer to
* zun_pagan_reformed_rebels.
* Changed zoroastrian_rebeles localisation into localisation for zun_pagan_reformed_rebels,
* as this localisation wasunnecessary after Zoroastrian religion was added to EU4.
A10. Zoroastrian and Tengri is marked as marked as custom religion in religion_table.csv.
They special localization and rebels are not removed.
* Removed sepcial rebel types for tengri and zoroastrian in file
* copy/common/rebel_types/01_converted_rebel_types.txt.
* Removed localisation for this rebels from converted_misc_l_*.yml
C9. Anglo-Saxon is localized as "Saxon", causing two cultures named saxon to exists.
* Added special localization for anglo_saxon in converted_custom_cultures_l_english.yml
* to "Anglo-Saxon", because otherwise the culture would be named "Saxon" (same as culture
* in german group).
D7. Zoroastrian heresies (Manichean, Mazdaki) are using Tengri religion icon instead of
Zoroastrian.
* Corrected 02_converted_heresies.txt file.
E4. Somyed is listed twice under Finno-Ugric group.
* Removed samoyed culture definition from common/cultures/finno_ugric_cultures.txt.
E5. CK2 Lappish culture is mapped to custom one in EU4 instead of using Sapmi.
* Added mapping from lappish to sapmi in culture_table.csv, removed lappish from
* finno_ugric_cultures.txt.
E6. CK2 Prussian is still mapping to Old Prussian that was removed from EU4 in 1.12.
* Changed culture_table.csv so the mapping between prussian and old_prussian is marked
* as custome one.
* Added new common/cultures/baltic_cultures.txt that contains definition of old_prussian
* culture in blatic group.
* Added special localization for old_purssian in converted_custom_cultures_l_english.yml
* to "Old Prussian", because otherwise the culture would be named "Prussian" (same as
* culture in german group).
F7. Inca and Aztec has nogoverment goverment tyoe after conversion.
* Instead of using removed imperial_government goverment type from EU4, used
* feudal_monarchy with rank 3 as the goverments for Inca and Aztec
* (sunset_invasion/copy/history/countries/ files).
H4. New tags from 1.12.
* Added following mappings for countries added in EU4 v1.12:
* d_esthonia;EST;Estonia;Estonia Duchy
* d_karelia;KRL;Karelia;Karelia Duchy
* d_livonia;LVA;Livonia;Livonia Duchy
* d_kola;SMI;Sami;Kola Sami Duchy
* d_meath;MTH;Meath;Meath Duchy
* c_nassau;NSA;Nassau;Nassau County
* k_andalusia;ADU;Andalusia;Andalusia Kingdom
* c_monferrato;MFA;Montferrat;Monferrato County
* c_lucca;LUC;Lucca;Lucca County
* c_hormuz;ORM;Ormuz;Hormuz County

Version 0.1:
Fixes following problems:
A2. All of the history/diplomacy files are blanked, causing the Japanese
Daiymos to be independent etc.
* Included in eu4_converter/copy/diplomacy/ dir copies of original
* files from EU4: Japanese_alliances.txt, Indonesian_alliances.txt,
* Chinese_alliances.txt, as this regions are not affected by conversion.
A3. Alan is still in the Byzantine culture group, but it should be in the
Caucasian one.
* Moved alan to caucasian group. Also moved it to new file
* caucasian_cultures.txt and made byzantine_cultures.txt empty.
A7. Some converted heresies (Yazidi, Druze, Hufuri) list themselves as
their own heresies.
A8. Monophysite, Nestorian and Messalian (threaded as Coptic heresies)
are using Orthodox heresies name list instead of Coptic. Kharijite
(Ibadi heresy) are using Sunni names, instead of Ibadi.
C1. Israelite culture group show as "israelite" in the Culture selection
menu.
* Created new file converted_custom_cultures_l_english.yml, that
* contains localisation of Isrealite group and new translation for
* old_saxon special case ("Old Saxon" instead of "Saxon");.
C2. Old Saxon culture is localized as "Saxon", causing two cultures
named saxon in "Germanic" group.
* Created new file converted_custom_cultures_l_english.yml, that
* contains localisation of Isrealite group and new translation for
* old_saxon special case ("Old Saxon" instead of "Saxon");.
C3. Zoroastrian religion group shows as "zoroastrian_group" instead of
"Zoroastrian" in the Religion selection menu.
* Created new file converted_custom_religion_group_l_english.yml that
* contains localisation for Zoroastrian group.
C4. Reformed Zunist heresy (DARKNESS) and Jain heresy (TERAPANTHA) is
missing localization in converted_heresies_l_lang.yml.
* Included modified version of the converted_heresies_l_english.yml,
* that contains missing heresies.
C8. Jewish heresies and Zoroastrian heresies list their parent religion
as heresy, but lack a localization for it.
* Added location to "JEWISH" and "ZOROASTRIAN" to
* converted_heresies_l_english.yml.
D1. Church of Zun is using muslim crescent as religious icon.
* (Partial) Used Inti icon (the sun) as I recon it as more fitting than
* Sunni one. Need a new graphics.
D2. Nestorian and Messsalian are using Orthodox icon instead of Coptic.
* Corrected 02_converted_heresies.txt file.
D3. Jewish heresies (Samaritan, Karaite) are using Zoroastrian religion
icon instead of Jewish.
* Corrected 02_converted_heresies.txt file.
D4. Miaphysite heresies (Monophysite) are getting Orthodox religion icon
instead of Coptic.
* Corrected 02_converted_heresies.txt file.
D5. Ibadi heresies (Kharijite) are getting Sunni religion icon instead
of Ibadi.
* Corrected 02_converted_heresies.txt file.
E1. Pictish culture is in separate celtic group instead of being listed
under "Celtic" (gealic in code) group with Breton, Irish, Welsh in the
Culture selection menu.
* Modified british_cultures.txt, so pictish is put under "Gaelic"
* instead of celtic.
E2. Kurdish, Afghan and Balochi has both mapping in culture_table.csv
and custom culture in common/cultures/iranian_cultures.txt.
Furthermore Balohi and Kurdish are defined again in common/cultures/indian_cultures.txt (sic!).
This leads to multiple entries of this culture in "Iranian" group in
the Culture selection menu.
* Replaced common/cultures/iranian_cultures.txt and indian_cultures.txt
* with empty files as the custom culture are no longer needed. The both
* definied baluhi and afghan.
E3. Israelite (Askhenazi and Sephardi) cultures are not listed in
culture_table.csv, so they miss localization and are spelled with
lower case.
* Added ashkenazi and sephardi mapping to culture_table.csv.
F2. Abenaki (ABE) and Mikmaq (MIK) and converts to Despotic Monarchies,
while still being OPM with North American technology group. That
prevents them from using migration without giving any other boost.
* Replaced ABE - Abenaki.txt and MIK - Mikmaq.txt from
* sunset_invasion/copy/history/countries/ with original EU4 files. They
* should be removed from mod.
F3. Comanche (COM) is still OPM with High Technolgy group, while it has
neighboring uncolonized provinces.
* Changed technology to high american. Added mentonied provinces and
* created province templates.
F4. Kiowa (KIO), Charrua (CUA) and Pequot (PEQ) are OPM nations with
native technology groups that borders boosted countries. They should
receive boost in technology and provinces number to avoid being
immediately annexed.
* Changed technology to high american. Added mentonied provinces and
* created province templates.
F5. Aztec marches: Tarascan (TAR), Tlapanec (TLA), Kiche (KIC), Tlaxcala
(TLX) and Muisca (MCA) are in Andean/Mesomarican technology group.
This does not make sense, because their neighbors all High American.
* Changed technology to high american. Added mentonied provinces and
* created province templates.
F6. Nations in North America converted from native_council are in the interregnum state, as they do not have ruler specified.
* For every despotic_monarchy that was having "Native Council" as ruler,
* added a new rule with ruler name randomly selected from male_names of culture.
* Dynasty and age is left to be choosen by game. The inuguration date is allways
* 1444.11.11.
* Made the ruler stat more random, instead of always 3,3,3.
* This is determined as follows:
* - choose sum of stats (5% for 6,10% for 7, 70% for 8, 10% for 9, 5% for 10)
* - distribute it randomly across categories
H1. New tags from 1.10.
* Updated nation table file.
H2. Tags added to 1.9. This post of Kljunas is copied from other thread.
* Updated nation table file.
H3. New tags from 1.11.
* Updated nation table file.

Other comments:
If during the game you will find that some of the localization is missing, that means you have encountered the "C10. The BOM mark used in localisation files files from eu4_converter/copy/localisation directory is not handled correctly and as consequence the custom localisations are not loaded (e.g. Aztec Ideas)." problem. To fix it, edit files in ${YOUR_MOD}/localisation and remove "" (malformed BOM) from the first line.

The localisation problems are mostly fixed for english version of the game.

Help needed
You may help me improve the mod by:
1. Creating religious EU4 rebel flags for:
Code:
baltic_pagan_reformed
finnish_pagan_reformed
slavic_pagan_reformed
west_african_pagan_reformed
hellenic_pagan
jain
[/spoiler]
 
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I have created a version of the mod that fixes "C10. The BOM mark used in localisation files files from eu4_converter/copy/localisation directory is not handled correctly and as consequence the custom localisations are not loaded (e.g. Aztec Ideas)" without need to manually edit the localisation files after the conversion. This files relies on storing copy of all localisation files in the mod with BOM removed.

As the localisation problems are system depended, before integrating the fix into release, I would like to ask you dear paradoxians to perform test of the mod on Windows/MAC sytem. The test consists of:
1. Running conversion with Sunset Invasion enabled on any bookmark.
2. Loading the EU4 with the converted save mod.
3. Selecting the Aztec nation on the country selection screen.
4. If the description of the ideas says "Aztec Ideas" then the fix is working correctly. If it says "aztec_ideas" then something went wrong.
Before reporting, pleases make sure that both CK2 and EU4 is set to same language.

Development version of the mod: https://github.com/tomaszkam/vcf/archive/master.zip.
 
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Ave,

Tested on Win 7 64bit
Ck2 2.4.2 (AJJW)
EU4 1.12.2 (6ff5)

seems to be working correctly,

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I heard that recently Paradox broke building holdings increases basetax. A quick skim of the patchnotes didn't mention it. Will this be in a future update or are you leaving it to the other guys in the Improved Converter project?
 

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Yeah, the converter has never changed base taxes or other provincial modifiers. I think at one point it did add universities in provinces based on buildings in CK2 but not sure if that was just me owning provinces that already had universities at game start anyway.
 

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I would rather believe PDX team members:
I know it irritates me, but I haven't come up with a balanced solution I'm happy with. So for now it goes with EU4's base tax. Because that is good enough while my experiments haven't been perfect.
Also this mod aim to add fixes for some obvious bugs. I do not want to redo/compete with "VCI" mod.
 

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I wonder if it's possible to correct one very weird thing in vanilla converter - after export Turkish countries have eastern technology group (instead of anatolian) and central european countries (Poland, Bohemia, Hungary) have muslim technology group.
 

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I wonder if it's possible to correct one very weird thing in vanilla converter - after export Turkish countries have eastern technology group (instead of anatolian) and central european countries (Poland, Bohemia, Hungary) have muslim technology group.
This is the WAD, see following post of the Groogy:
Its working as designed, and during the time of 769 and 867 it isn't far fetched to put the Indian's as the strongest technologically. That is how the history files for CK2 are scripted. How it is right now is that it calculated a median value of everyone in the world, those that hits over that mark with a good margin becomes western, if you are near the median then you are eastern and if you are way below then you get something much worse.
You should check the Vanilla Converted Improved mod thread :).
 

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Great mod!
Paradox should hire you to maintain the converter, since they are clearly giving up on the poor thing alltogether.
 

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I don't understand why you insist on grouping Nestorians and Messalians in with the Coptics. They are completely unrelated religions, both in CK2 as well as reality.

If you can not recover their actual icon from CK2, using the orthodox one is defintely the lesser evil, since they were closer to them theologically and also actually seen and persecuted as heresies by the orthodox church.
 

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Great mod!
Paradox should hire you to maintain the converter, since they are clearly giving up on the poor thing alltogether.
I think that this is a matter of the resource allocation for the converter. In the past releases there were some fixed to the conversion, and they was mostly focused on the internal problems with the algorithm that cannot be fixed by editing data files in mod like mine. Also the converter fixes are planned for major patch - this leads to the problem that the old problems may indeed be fixed, but new problems gets introduced by next EU4/CK2 patch. I think that converter fixes should be targeted to last minor patch, to give us as long as possible period of bug-free experience.

I don't understand why you insist on grouping Nestorians and Messalians in with the Coptics. They are completely unrelated religions, both in CK2 as well as reality.

If you can not recover their actual icon from CK2, using the orthodox one is defintely the lesser evil, since they were closer to them theologically and also actually seen and persecuted as heresies by the orthodox church.
The Nestorian and Messalian are converted to the Coptic in the case when the game is converted without Sons of Abraham enabled, and I did not recognized this as the bug (I do not have enough knowledge on this topic). My mod just apply this approach consequently, and also uses Coptic icon in case of the conversion with SoA.

If you could post a reference to materials that will support that the conversion of Nestorian and Messalian to Coptic should be considered as the bug, and they should be converted to Orthodox instead, then I will change both conversion without SoA and icon (I want to keep this two in sync).
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorianism

"Nestorianism is a form of dyophysitism, and can be seen as the antithesis to monophysitism, which emerged in reaction to Nestorianism."
"Both Nestorianism and monophysitism were condemned as heretical at the Council of Chalcedon. Monophysitism survived and developed into the Miaphysitism of the modern Oriental Orthodox churches."

As you can see, Nestorianism emerged as a heresy of the Chalcedonian (=Orthodox) church long before Miaphysitism (= the Coptic Church) even existed and is the opposite position theologically.
 

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A14. The Hoya province is not mapped correctly.
Praise Satan! It has been a bit weird seeing a lonely Catholic opm Brunswick in the middle of pagan Scandinavian Germany or Roman empire.
 

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Is there some specific way to use the mod? With the mod activated I converted a save, and EU IV still said that it wasn't compatible with 1.3.
This is with version 0.6 of the mod.