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This was stated on THIS PAGE

There is already a British invasion in 2800. This question gets asked every 2 pages. So notalbanian please put:
Invasion
British-added
Brazilian

Though people still ask about if you are going to expand the map, but that's only ever 10 pages.

Sorry for not thoroughly following every mod in every PI game subforum :p.

If people keep asking that, why don't you put into the first post? I have read that post, then this question came to my mind so I asked.

EDIT: Is the map going to be expanded?
 

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The previous page's culture discussion, viz. the relationship between Canadian and American cultures, has merit and I agree with it to a fair degree. Implementing a revision might require a few other changes, though, since currently most of the American side of the Great Lakes is taken up by cultures playing up German influences, whereas the Canadian side is Anglo as heck.

As it currently stands, the division of pertinent cultures is as follows:
  • Amerodeutsch
    • Deitsch
    • Rostmann
    • Dellsman
    • Chicagoan
    • Yooper
    • Northlander
  • North Anglo
    • Yankee
    • Hudsonian
    • Gothamite
    • Delawarean
    • Lacustrine
  • Maplean
    • Ontarioan
    • Maritimer

If a change were to go through, I'm curious to see if the below proposal seems more fitting:
  • Amerodeutsch
    • Deitsch
    • Dellsman
    • Yooper
    • Northlander
  • Laurentian (Great Lakes-centric)
    • Rustonian (Anglified form of the Rostmann culture and basically just replaces it. Name subject to change, ofc)
    • Lacustrine
    • Chicagoan
    • Ontarioan
  • North Atlantic (Culture group focusing on the North Atlantic-ish region)
    • Yankee
    • Hudsonian
    • Gothamite
    • Delawarean
    • Maritimer

Rostmann culture itself could possibly be saved as a melting pot for if an Amerodeutsch culture takes over the Rust Belt.

Yes? No? Tell me about all the ways this idea goes about it the wrong way.


e: On a related note, what would a North Ontario culture be called? Rupertian?
 
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The previous page's culture discussion, viz. the relationship between Canadian and American cultures, has merit and I agree with it to a fair degree. Implementing a revision might require a few other changes, though, since currently most of the American side of the Great Lakes is taken up by cultures playing up German influences, whereas the Canadian side is Anglo as heck.

As it currently stands, the division of pertinent cultures is as follows:
  • Amerodeutsch
    • Deitsch
    • Rostmann
    • Dellsman
    • Chicagoan
    • Yooper
    • Northlander
  • North Anglo
    • Yankee
    • Hudsonian
    • Gothamite
    • Delawarean
    • Lacustrine
  • Maplean
    • Ontarioan
    • Maritimer

If a change were to go through, I'm curious to see if the below proposal seems more fitting:
  • Amerodeutsch
    • Deitsch
    • Dellsman
    • Yooper
    • Northlander
  • Laurentian (Great Lakes-centric)
    • Rustonian (Anglified form of the Rostmann culture and basically just replaces it. Name subject to change, ofc)
    • Lacustrine
    • Chicagoan
    • Ontarioan
  • North Atlantic (Culture group focusing on the North Atlantic-ish region)
    • Yankee
    • Hudsonian
    • Gothamite
    • Delawarean
    • Maritimer

Rostmann culture itself could possibly be saved as a melting pot for if an Amerodeutsch culture takes over the Rust Belt.

Yes? No? Tell me about all the ways this idea goes about it the wrong way.


e: On a related note, what would a North Ontario culture be called? Rupertian?
This is a great idea (you can call the people in Northern Ontario Mantarians, Mantarioans, or Aurorans (there is a group in Northernwestern Ontario that wants to separate from the rest of that province that proposes that the new province be called "Mantario" and another (assuming it was for all of Northern Ontario) in the 1940's that wanted to call their province "Aurora"; Either (or both) can be titles (Aurora could be a kingdom and ducal title and Mantario could be a ducal title)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...territories_of_Canada#Movements_within_Canada)
 

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If a change were to go through, I'm curious to see if the below proposal seems more fitting:
Amerodeutsch
Deitsch
Dellsman
Yooper
Northlander

Laurentian (Great Lakes-centric)
Rustonian (Anglified form of the Rostmann culture and basically just replaces it. Name subject to change, ofc)
Lacustrine
Chicagoan
Ontarioan

North Atlantic (Culture group focusing on the North Atlantic-ish region)
Yankee
Hudsonian
Gothamite
Delawarean
Maritimer

Rostmann culture itself could possibly be saved as a melting pot for if an Amerodeutsch culture takes over the Rust Belt.

The proposal is thought provoking. I for one am interested in the idea of a Laurentian culture group, as the name brings more flavor of the area into the idea of culture. Laurentian being derived from St. Laurence Seaway, if I am not mistaken, would put some emphasis on cultures that utilize the Great Lakes and the Seaway. I'm tempted to say "throw in everyone in Amerodeutch except Deitch" into Laurentian too, but I'm afraid of what repercussions having such a large and busy culture group could cause, and what would become of the Deitch culture if that were to happen. Maybe a East/West or North/South split? My rationale though is that one could surmise that those cultures (Northlander, Yooper, and Dellsman) would also be lake-faring due to proximity, and share some commonalities with the proposed Laurentian group.

My only other reservations may come in the idea that there may be a plan to extend the Mississippi north to or past Minneapolis-St. Paul at some point (it is navigable past there), as that too would be another cultural highway which could influence the area, perhaps cause a melting pot effect, and justify leaving them as a more unique culture group betwixt the Mighty Mississippi and the Great Lakes.

As for the proposal in hand, I say run with it, Ofaloaf.
 
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The new divisions for Culture Groups look good. For Northern Ontarians, I would suggest either Aurorans (historical term) or Shieldmen/Shielders, since most of the area is on the Canadian Shield. Maybe something like Ontcerons, from the ONTC (Ontario Northland Transportation Commission), which is written in quite a few town down the eastern side of the region.
 

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Is it intended that in the current Github version basically everone uses Ag-Cog Open for succession? Or is this a bag with the current version/my install?
 

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If you added the Canal between the Mississippi River and the Great Lakes, the Chicago Ship Canal, it would give the Norse raiders a good deal more land they could raid. Right now it doesn't feel like there's a good reason for the Mississippi and Ohio rivers to be great rivers when nobody raids along them. Actually, I haven't seen much river raiding at all, and I suspect it's because the fort levels start too high.
Starting infrastructure in general seems quite substantial considering the continent is only just recovering from the calamity.
 

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If you added the Canal between the Mississippi River and the Great Lakes, the Chicago Ship Canal, it would give the Norse raiders a good deal more land they could raid. Right now it doesn't feel like there's a good reason for the Mississippi and Ohio rivers to be great rivers when nobody raids along them. Actually, I haven't seen much river raiding at all, and I suspect it's because the fort levels start too high.
Starting infrastructure in general seems quite substantial considering the continent is only just recovering from the calamity.

This is (about) 600 years AFTER a calamity, there's little to no infrastructure.
 

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This is (about) 600 years AFTER a calamity, there's little to no infrastructure.

To be fair, the Illinois Waterway is shorter, with fewer locks and less elevation change than the Erie canal, which is in game. The Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal is even smaller. As such, it is not too unreasonable that someone might ask about when the other is there.
 

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Is it intended that in the current Github version basically everone uses Ag-Cog Open for succession? Or is this a bag with the current version/my install?

I noticed this happening as well, wasn't sure what the cause was, but its certainly made succession a crapshoot!
Whoa, yeah, I dunno what's up with that. I appreciate that being pointed out.
 

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Whoa, yeah, I dunno what's up with that. I appreciate that being pointed out.

That's what I figured. Maybe something caused by setting up the Tanistry usage? Since those affected titles and other titles with specific laws (such as the Confederacy) are the only unaffected ones.
 

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That's what I figured. Maybe something caused by setting up the Tanistry usage? Since those affected titles and other titles with specific laws (such as the Confederacy) are the only unaffected ones.
Caught it now, actually-- a single line was deleted in a single file and cause the game to assume that Open succession was now the default go-to one.

e: I think what's now in Github will do the job.
 
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I live right next to an abandoned canal (the Delaware & Hudson, which ran from the coal mines in Pennsylvania to Kingston, NY), the immediate section of which has recently been renovated as a walking path by the city of Port Jervis. It had been abandoned less than 150 years, and still several washouts of the tow path had to be repaired, and the canal itself is reduced to a few stagnant ponds. (There is one 1 mile stretch of canal that has been preserved, largely because a local power company had used that stretch of the canal as a reservoir, and it later got converted to a county park. Even there, there is no working lock, and the aqueduct that carried the canal across a small river is gone except for abutments.)

There's no way any significant canal would survive 600 years without maintenance and still be useful.
 
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