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First off I would like to say a massive thank you to the developers of this mod I can't wait for the release, also secondly what I thought was going to happen in the books is that daenarys is going to die saving the realm because you can hardly have an infertile queen who would take over? Anyway that's my theory probably wrong

Personal theory: Dany will return to Westros and destroy the Iron Throne. She's Fire, and as Maester Aemon said, Fire Consumes.

I see Dany as developing into the personification of creative destruction, burning away the bloated corruption and making way for something new to grow in the ashes. She'll probably die in some sort of final confrontation with the Others/White Walkers.

As for infertility, we don't actually know that she's infertile. She got that news from a woman who had already tricked her once, after all. And her exact words were that Drogo would recover "when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east" (like Quentyn Martell, the Sun's Son), "when the mountains blow in the air like leaves" (Gregor Clegane being tossed in the air by the wind from a dragon's wings would count) "when the seas run dry" (drought in the Dothraki Sea, leading to the grasslands being consumed by dragon fire?), and then after all these impossible things, when Dany bears a living child. She infers that that means she'll never have children, but she misunderstood what the Maegi meant before after all...
 
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I don't get why people think the maegi's words were a real prophecy. I think Stannis will be King, though not of the Iron Throne for a while(if ever) He's pretty content to stay in the North until he's rallied the lords, which after he gets the Bastard of the Dreadfort the lords will flock to him.

EDIT: It's already been shown the red priests and priestesses are right. Look at me, Beric! :rofl:
 

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I am a Targaryen loyalist. As far as I'm concerned if this doesn't end with Daenarys on the Throne, with Aegon as the heir apparent and Lord of Dragonstone, Tyrion Lord of the Rock, Stannis Lord Commander of Castle Black, And the Iron Islands melted to rock and their inhabitants converted to the one true faith of the seven, the whole thing will have been a disaster :)

For the record: I want Tommen granted the Stormlands to rule with Lady Paramount Margaerey and Ser Pounce ofthe nine lives, House Baelish granted the Vale, Jon Snow legitimised by Royal decree and given the ancient seat of House Stark, and Varys given whatever the hell he wants.

Yeah, I'm a contrarian.
 
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I am a Targaryen loyalist. As far as I'm concerned if this doesn't end with Daenarys on the Throne, with Aegon as the heir apparent and Lord of Dragonstone, Tyrion Lord of the Rock, Stannis Lord Commander of Castle Black, And the Iron Islands melted to rock and their inhabitants converted to the one true faith of the seven, the whole thing will have been a disaster :)

Wouldn't count on all that...
 
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I am a Targaryen loyalist. As far as I'm concerned if this doesn't end with Daenarys on the Throne, with Aegon as the heir apparent and Lord of Dragonstone, Tyrion Lord of the Rock, Stannis Lord Commander of Castle Black, And the Iron Islands melted to rock and their inhabitants converted to the one true faith of the seven, the whole thing will have been a disaster :)

The chances that Hodor marries Cersei and they rule together the seven kingdoms is greater then that scenario. Stannis and bend the knee xD hilarious.! And Aegon who has a better claim (if he is a targ) to make place for a women, rofl...
 

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Spoiler tag added to mine. To anyone who read it and feels spoiled, bear in mind that 99% of my post was pure speculation on my part. Only one of the prophesiesed events has happened thus far, and I referenced it only vaguely. Apologies though.

Further spoilerific theories of mine:
The three heads of the Dragon are Dany, Jon Snow and Jaime Lannister. I've come around to the idea that Jaime and Cersei are actually the Mad King's bastards by Tywin Lannister's wife. It explains the extreme falling out between the houses after decades of alliance, and Jaime and Cersei certainly behave like Targs: Incest, arrogance, one is "great" the other clearly quite mad. The irony being that Tywin treated his only real son as the suspected bastard. Tywin's sister tells Jaimie at one point that Tyrion is the only one of Tywin Lannister's children who is actually much like him.

On another Lannister note, the little brother who will kill Cersei isn't Tyrion. It's Jaimie. He'll do it for the same reasons he killed the Mad King. The murder weapon will be the Hand of the King's chain of office (the prophecy references "hands around her throat," probelmatic for Jaimie these days...

In other Kinslaying news, Sandor Clegane isn't dead, but instead recovering from his wounds and finding religion on the Quiet Isle. He'll return to slay "Robert Strong", aka the reanimated abomination that once was his brother Gregor.

The alleged Aegon VI is a fraud, actually an offshoot of one of the exiled pretender branches of the Targs. Neither he nor Connington knows the truth, but Varys, Illyrio and possibly Doran Martell do.

Bran sacrifices his humanity to become the next Greenseer, because there needs to be one in that cave to preserve the magic that keeps the Others north of the Wall.

The resurgance of the Others was an indirect result of a Maester's conspiracy to kill off the dragons. This unbalanced the primal forces that govern the world, Fire and Ice. Dragons and Targs are Fire, Others and Starks are Ice. Jon Snow is the Prince Who Was Promised and will somehow restore equilibrium between the two, but not until after most of the seven kingdoms are destroyed. Dany hatching her eggs is the pendulum swinging back towards Fire.

Pure speculation, of course.

Edit: Also, Stannis woun't bend the knee, or even take the black. That man is incapable of compromise. He'll be King of all Seven Kingdoms or die trying.
 

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Spoiler tag added to mine. To anyone who read it and feels spoiled, bear in mind that 99% of my post was pure speculation on my part. Only one of the prophesiesed events has happened thus far, and I referenced it only vaguely. Apologies though.

Further spoilerific theories of mine:
The three heads of the Dragon are Dany, Jon Snow and Jaime Lannister. I've come around to the idea that Jaime and Cersei are actually the Mad King's bastards by Tywin Lannister's wife. It explains the extreme falling out between the houses after decades of alliance, and Jaime and Cersei certainly behave like Targs: Incest, arrogance, one is "great" the other clearly quite mad. The irony being that Tywin treated his only real son as the suspected bastard. Tywin's sister tells Jaimie at one point that Tyrion is the only one of Tywin Lannister's children who is actually much like him.

On another Lannister note, the little brother who will kill Cersei isn't Tyrion. It's Jaimie. He'll do it for the same reasons he killed the Mad King. The murder weapon will be the Hand of the King's chain of office (the prophecy references "hands around her throat," probelmatic for Jaimie these days...

In other Kinslaying news, Sandor Clegane isn't dead, but instead recovering from his wounds and finding religion on the Quiet Isle. He'll return to slay "Robert Strong", aka the reanimated abomination that once was his brother Gregor.

The alleged Aegon VI is a fraud, actually an offshoot of one of the exiled pretender branches of the Targs. Neither he nor Connington knows the truth, but Varys, Illyrio and possibly Doran Martell do.

Bran sacrifices his humanity to become the next Greenseer, because there needs to be one in that cave to preserve the magic that keeps the Others north of the Wall.

The resurgance of the Others was an indirect result of a Maester's conspiracy to kill off the dragons. This unbalanced the primal forces that govern the world, Fire and Ice. Dragons and Targs are Fire, Others and Starks are Ice. Jon Snow is the Prince Who Was Promised and will somehow restore equilibrium between the two, but not until after most of the seven kingdoms are destroyed. Dany hatching her eggs is the pendulum swinging back towards Fire.

Pure speculation, of course.

Edit: Also, Stannis woun't bend the knee, or even take the black. That man is incapable of compromise. He'll be King of all Seven Kingdoms or die trying.

I agree on Aegon, he's a Blackfyre pretender imo, but if you even bothered to read all of ADWD you'd notice the last Jaime chapter, so your theory on him is completely null.
 

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You're right it's not a competition, Lord of the Rings is obviously better. :D
I cannot tell if you're serious but I hope your comment was in jest. "Obviously better" is an opinion, yours in fact. While I consider both series to be excellent, each of them are very different and each are narratively doing very different things. The one I consider to be better, at least up to this point, is A Song of Ice and Fire.
 

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I agree on Aegon, he's a Blackfyre pretender imo, but if you even bothered to read all of ADWD you'd notice the last Jaime chapter, so your theory on him is completely null.

Not at all.

Is Jaime dead yet? No. There's plenty of time for him to reunite with his sister (probably as she is fleeing the ashes of King's Landing). She'll again ask him to be Hand, this time he will accept, and in the midst of her relief he'll strangle her with the chain to keep her from whatever mad scheme she has to restore herself to power by destroying what's left of the Kingdoms.

Personally, I think the Jaime/Brienne cliffhanger will be resolved by Brienne luring him to Stoneheart. She'll try to force Brienne to kill him, but Brienne will deliberately allow him to kill her in a trial by combat.
 

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Can you guys PLEASE use spoiler tags ? I know I should expect spoilers when coming to this forum, and I don't mind in the slightest when you speculate about things in the books, but just use spoiler tags.

Also, HODOR !
 

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Can you guys PLEASE use spoiler tags ? I know I should expect spoilers when coming to this forum, and I don't mind in the slightest when you speculate about things in the books, but just use spoiler tags.

Also, HODOR !

If there was an easier way to put a spoiler tag I would bother, and I'm not spoiling anything. He is, and he's putting tags.
 
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