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Mitxel

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Which would be why you can't just buy one from a Westerosi Lord. Can you still get the event where a trader offers to sell you one for like 1000 dragons? I haven't seen it since they introduced the Valyrian quest. Did they take it out? Also, has anyone ever bought a real sword from it? All of mine have been frauds.
I think all of them are frauds, or the chance of a real one is insanely low. How would a random trader get one of the rarest artifacts on earth?
 
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I must admit, I am anxious for the patch to come out. I found this MOD and immediately wanted to play it. However my CK2 was updating through steam at the exact point of finding the mod! oh dear.

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I think all of them are frauds, or the chance of a real one is insanely low. How would a random trader get one of the rarest artifacts on earth?
There are 200 of them in Westeros alone, and 'thousands' in entire world, according to Tyrion. I wouldn't call it exactly 'rarest artifact on the earth'.
 

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There are 200 of them in Westeros alone, and 'thousands' in entire world, according to Tyrion. I wouldn't call it exactly 'rarest artifact on the earth'.

Where'd the "200 in Westeros alone" thing come from?

Widow's Wail,

Oathkeeper,

Heartsbane,

Longclaw,

Lady Forlorn,

Red Rain,

Nightfall,

The dagger with dragonbone hilt wielded by Bran Stark's failed assassin, and currently in the possession of Petyr Baelish.

A Valyrian steel axe possessed by House Celtigar.
Valyrian steel Arakh owned by Caggo.

Blades with known fate:

Ice,

Blades with unknown fate:

Blackfyre,
Brightroar,
Dark Sister,

These are the currently known about Valyrian blades. If there were 200, if not thousands in the known world, as you say. Why wouldn't Tywin just buy one, as he wanted one for House Lannister after they lost Brightroar?
 

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Where'd the "200 in Westeros alone" thing come from?



These are the currently known about Valyrian blades. If there were 200, if not thousands in the known world, as you say. Why wouldn't Tywin just buy one, as he wanted one for House Lannister after they lost Brightroar?

Those are the ones that were deemed important enough to be mentioned in the books because they happened to be associated with important families or important events. If we assume the totality of swords available during 5th century AD are those mentioned in the various legends of King Arthur, there were few swords indeed.

As for buying, that was referenced. I believe the phrase was something along the lines of "If approached with a marriage or betrothal, they would happily sell their daughters, but hold deerly to their precious family swords". I'm certain I got the entire phrasing wrong, but that's the general gist. "Want an alliance?" "Sure!" "Want to sell me your sword in exchange for enough gold to swim in?" "Piss off!".
 

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This is how desperate I'm getting here...

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Where'd the "200 in Westeros alone" thing come from?

Copied directly from A Storm of Swords:
"Valyrian steel blades were scarce and costly, yet thousands remained in the world, perhaps two hundred in the Seven Kingdoms alone."

If there were 200, if not thousands in the known world, as you say. Why wouldn't Tywin just buy one, as he wanted one for House Lannister after they lost Brightroar?

Also directly from A Storm of Swords:
"Thrice at least Lord Tywin had offered to buy Valyrian longswords from impoverished lesser houses, but his advances had always been firmly rebuffed. The little lordlings would gladly part with their daughters should a Lannister come asking, but they cherished their old family swords."
 

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Re: Valyrian sword numbers, it might just be an author mistake. At one point they were fairly rare (Everyone's puzzled at a cutthroat having a Valyrian dagger, but not "zomg!!"), then as the books progressed they became super rare. Like how Tyrion is able to do a backflip/handspring in the first book but the only other time he does something comparable is a cartwheel (and a memory of walking on his hands).
 

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Ok this is why I used the qualifier 'one of' and specifically said artifacts, not items in general.
The point about the event stands, it is basically the equivalent of some guy selling a Stradivarius out of a van. I guess stranger things happen, but it's probably a scam.
 

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There's a reason why there's a fifty percent chance that the sword is fake.
 
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