That's exactly what I said. Oldtown, Westmarch, Brightwater and the Arbor join the Crownlands, and the Crownlands loses everything except Crackclaw and Dragonstone.
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That's exactly what I said. Oldtown, Westmarch, Brightwater and the Arbor join the Crownlands, and the Crownlands loses everything except Crackclaw and Dragonstone.
No and why should it? It has a core region of support (crownlands) and it has a powerful force backing it, namely tradition. Just think of Japan whose monarchy endured for 1000s of years even though at times the Tenno was de-facto just the lord of his own bedroom and little else. Or the Roman empire which remained around for centuries despite losing most of its lands and in the end even the suburbs of the capital city.
If the IT collapses just a generation after Aegon, I could see your point, but after ~100-200 years it's really a formidable institution and will remain around as long as there's someone who wears the crown with legitimacy and retains enough power to control his capital. If the Kings of the renewed seven kingdoms want to end this they have to do it the hard way - take the crownlands and the IT and destroy the title.
so I just started as Aegon of Dragonstone in the 7999 bookmark, and there's a few things not going right. I've conquered everything except Dorne and the North, but when I created the Kingdom of Westeros, only the Riverlands, the Stormlands and what should be the Crownlands (but which are de jure split between the two forementioned) became de jure Westeros. The Reach, the Westlands, the Iron Islands and the Vale stayed de jure Stormlands (the first kingdom I conquered). Coincidentally these four had a Lord Paramount over them, while the other ones didn't.
I also didn't get an option to move my capital to Blackwater Bay, nor to convert to the faith of the Seven. I didn't get a nifty 'the Conqueror' title either. I did get an event to establish the Kingsguard, but it didn't actually do anything, probably because I was still a follower of the old Valyrian gods.
Is this all my fault because I should've started with the other bookmark in 8000, or is something bugged?
I also didn't get an option to move my capital to Blackwater Bay, nor to convert to the faith of the Seven. I didn't get a nifty 'the Conqueror' title either. I did get an event to establish the Kingsguard, but it didn't actually do anything, probably because I was still a follower of the old Valyrian gods.
Is this all my fault because I should've started with the other bookmark in 8000, or is something bugged?
All the special events are 8000 start only, I believe. You need to trigger the first kingsguard choosing manually.
Sorry, I've misread.
I'm not saying that's how that should happen. I think that if many kingdoms take their independance, the kingdoms remaining under the authority of the Iron Throne want independance too. For example, if the King only rules over the Crownlands and the Stormlands, he should proclaim the kingdom of the Stormlands to keep his authority over the region. But like I said earlier, this should be a possibility, not something that should happen every game.
I keep on getting a crash every time a megawar comes to an end. Any idea how to avoid this? 
I don't know where to start with this mod... I have seen the first two seasons of HBO Game of Thrones...
Who should I play and what should my goals be?
I like a challenge.
Who should I play and what should my goals be?
I like a challenge.
You should watch season 3. And get the Roy Dotrice audio books, and listen to those mofos.
BTW: Aegon's Conquest of Dorne seems to bugged if Summer Isles invade and win Dorne before decision to Conquer it.
And hence my question: is there any way to disable Summer Isles Invasions? Right now they don't fulfill any purpose other than to break immerse - and they're too weak to be threat to Iron Throne anyway.
And hence my question: is there any way to disable Summer Isles Invasions? Right now they don't fulfill any purpose other than to break immerse - and they're too weak to be threat to Iron Throne anyway.
I am by no mean connected to developers of this mod, but I think this is terrible idea. It'd mean that e.g. if young Targaeryen would be murdered, Prince of Dragonstone suddenly would stop being 'Prince of Wales' of Seven Kingdoms, instead being inherited by random Targaeryen.
Futhermore, the succession in books is explicitly not a gavelkind. Neither of Tywin Lannister's brothers inherited anything. Same goes for Mace Tyrell's uncles, etc. And Robert's brothers ruler over Stormlands & Dragonstone didn't have anything to do with inheritance - neither of them were lord before Robert's Rebellion succedeed, when Robert were still Lord Paramount of the Stormlands. Afterwards, Renly's ascension is modelled by event asking to appoint Lord Paramount of the lands that don't have one, and Stannis' one is ordinary giving the lands over the demesne limit to some relatives.
And while books had ordered borders for 300+ years, it didn't have anything to do with gavelkind. It was rather that (under primogeniture) there were never any situation, when one person would inherit two Paramouncies. Unlikely? Yes, but that's AGoT for you. Sadly, when such a stable dynasties are inserted into CK II engine, we see strange things.
Futhermore, the succession in books is explicitly not a gavelkind. Neither of Tywin Lannister's brothers inherited anything. Same goes for Mace Tyrell's uncles, etc. And Robert's brothers ruler over Stormlands & Dragonstone didn't have anything to do with inheritance - neither of them were lord before Robert's Rebellion succedeed, when Robert were still Lord Paramount of the Stormlands. Afterwards, Renly's ascension is modelled by event asking to appoint Lord Paramount of the lands that don't have one, and Stannis' one is ordinary giving the lands over the demesne limit to some relatives.
And while books had ordered borders for 300+ years, it didn't have anything to do with gavelkind. It was rather that (under primogeniture) there were never any situation, when one person would inherit two Paramouncies. Unlikely? Yes, but that's AGoT for you. Sadly, when such a stable dynasties are inserted into CK II engine, we see strange things.
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I'm assuming if you are a young Targaryan with no brothers, your next of kin would inherit Dragonstone anyway so if you are murdered this wouldn't be an issue?
Since Tywin seems only to have Lordship of Casterly rock and is LP his brothers wouldn't have had anything to inherit. Same with Mace Tyrell. As for the Baratheons, isn't this exactly what I stated in my post? Robert became King, so he was faced with giving up the Stormlands to a relative and he chose his youngest brother. He also chose to give Dragonstone to Stannis.
My point is the books "seem" not to have Gavelkind because each LP only has one holding anyway so his brothers don't inherit because they have nothing to inherit.
EDIT: It just seems that, in the books, anytime an individual gets more than one title he immediately dumps it on a relative.
If I had two brothers, one will get kingdom, and one dragonstone. Things will be OK unless both had children, when it'll turn ugly.
And you're right about dumping titles. But I prefer to be able to just distribute them, as gavelkind produces ugly results sometimes. And well... Knowing CK II, it'll spark war for claims on both Paramouncies - and that'll be even more hilarious by AGoT standard!
However, since I don't remember this properly - wasn't Joffrey supposed to inherit Casterly Rock as well as Kingdom?
I just tried the 8000 bookmark as Aegon and after I won I was only offered the original 3 capital locations. Harrenhal wasn't burnt and I had conquered every kingdom except for Dorne. Does anybody know what the problem is? I reloaded and did it again and I got the same result, so it wasn't a random bug.
I don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't got this far in the books but at the time of the current TV series it was a toss up as to who was going to inherit Casterly Rock. Most laws would point to Tyrion but being a dwarf Tywin would never want him to have it and with Jaime in the Kingsguard Joffrey did look like the most likely candidate.
EDIT: Although I assume once Joffrey spawned a few heirs *vomits* he would give one of his lower sons the Westerlands.
I also prefer distributing titles but the AI isn't too swift. After all, I already mentioned in my custom-dynasty game where my grandson was set to inherit the throne and he started a lower CA faction. Makes no sense at all.
I suppose the best option for my tastes would be a setting where titles cannot leave their de jure paramouncy(not sure if this is even a word but is sounds good) and an event that forces a person with more than one title to give up one or the other. I know there is an event where you get tyranny if you hold too many titles but if you're strong enough you can be as big of a douche as you want to be with little consequence.
Once again, it's probably just me freaking out but I hate it when one county in the Vale has gone Westerlands for some reason or when the Reach swallows up the Stormlands and the Rock.
Just a quick question: any estimate [even very approximate] on when we'll have a fully working version for the current patch? I'd love to try the game but depends how far off it is whether it's worth downloading the beta and then having to re-download for the update soon(ish) after?
Happy either way and looking forward to trying it out, just curious. Thanks.
Happy either way and looking forward to trying it out, just curious. Thanks.
Perfectly stable at the moment. Some of the new features, like manual raiding, do not seem to have been implemented yet, though.
Don't suppose anyone happens to know the event code to have a bastard of your current character or current character's son make an appearance, do they? I really want to play as a bastard of Aegon the Conquerer with his own cadet branch, but gotta make it happen first...
Oh nevermind, I just played as one of his sons and gave him the bastard trait XD
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