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Lol asha greyjoy is celibate, which is stupid because in a chapter she has sex.

It's also smart, from a CK2 perspective, because it keeps her from getting married. "My daughter has taken an axe for a lover," or whatever it is Balon says.

Well considering the nature of the books Celibate shouldn't be a trait at all:laugh:. Eunuch is another matter:confused:

Members of the Faith Militant, the Kingsguard, and the Night's Watch all swear vows of celibacy. It's not absurd to think some keep them.
 

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It's also smart, from a CK2 perspective, because it keeps her from getting married. "My daughter has taken an axe for a lover," or whatever it is.

But she frequently had sex anyway. And not with axe.

Maybe royal Ironborn family girls should be able to marry only other Ironborn, then. Making Asha Celibate is somewhat not cool :)
 
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I absolutely hate this mod, the books, the series .. EVERYTHING. They are completely ruining my social life. :p I'm halfway Storm of Swords now, and totally addicted to GoT. Everytime I finish a chapter, I want to know what happens next !

I just had one question, and this is probably a good place to ask. :

Why is Robb Stark called the King IN the North, and Balon Greyjoy King OF the North ?
 

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I absolutely hate this mod, the books, the series .. EVERYTHING. They are completely ruining my social life. :p I'm halfway Storm of Swords now, and totally addicted to GoT. Everytime I finish a chapter, I want to know what happens next !

I just had one question, and this is probably a good place to ask. :

Why is Robb Stark called the King IN the North, and Balon Greyjoy King OF the North ?

just a guess but I think itd be because Robbs seat is in winterfell and balons is not
 

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just a guess but I think itd be because Robbs seat is in winterfell and balons is not

Or to extrapolate upon that. Robb's was a distinction made to separate himself from the only king around. It was a declaration of northern identity and solidarity. Balon's was simply a title.
 

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But she frequently had sex anyway. And not with axe.

Maybe royal Ironborn family girls should be able to marry only other Ironborn, then. Making Asha Celibate is somewhat not cool :)

The game doesnt treat her as ironborn, it treats her as the daughter of king tier character, so if shes not celibate she'll marry the first tully, stark or tyrell to come along.
Probably the way to do it would be have an event where by she loses it when she inherits or marries. So that way it'll stop her marrying but wont kill off house Greyjoy if her brother dies.

Somewhat on that note, people keep matrilinially marrying Black Brothers and Knights of the Kingsguard so maybe those two traits should have negative fertility to them to keep them where they ought to be.
Also ive just remember noticing that alot of the time there are no candidates for the Kingsguard so it'll sit on one or two members and then when the choice comes up it'll one only have option, quite often your eldest son who says no anyway. I think its because you have to be over 16 and unmarried [just guessing as i haven't checked the files] and the AI is pretty quick at marrying everyone off these days so maybe opening the door to younger applicants would be a way around it.
 

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The game doesnt treat her as ironborn, it treats her as the daughter of king tier character, so if shes not celibate she'll marry the first tully, stark or tyrell to come along.
Probably the way to do it would be have an event where by she loses it when she inherits or marries. So that way it'll stop her marrying but wont kill off house Greyjoy if her brother dies.

Somewhat on that note, people keep matrilinially marrying Black Brothers and Knights of the Kingsguard so maybe those two traits should have negative fertility to them to keep them where they ought to be.
Also ive just remember noticing that alot of the time there are no candidates for the Kingsguard so it'll sit on one or two members and then when the choice comes up it'll one only have option, quite often your eldest son who says no anyway. I think its because you have to be over 16 and unmarried [just guessing as i haven't checked the files] and the AI is pretty quick at marrying everyone off these days so maybe opening the door to younger applicants would be a way around it.

Then not Ironborn, but Drowned God faith.

I remember trying marrying some Tengri princess (I think it was CK2+ mod) as Shia Muslim, there was modifier "should not marry the infidel" or something like that, so it's doable, no? And it is not contradicting to lore, Ironborn married seriously only to Ironborn. Other women were salt wives.

On the other note, in our MP .2.1 game I was playing as Harlaw and by some cool lucky event Asha lost her Celibate trait and got Lustful one. It was fun enough, I married her to the Knight (who stayed squire all his life), of course. Harlaws got Iron Islands through her, but too bad, business trip.
 

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Then not Ironborn, but Drowned God faith.
Semantics dont change it, its how the AI works.

The point is, the AI is treating her as a king-tier's daughter, so it'll marry her at the first chance.
Thats how the game mechanics work, not the mod the game. There are no other Drowned God King tier characters, or powerful dukes even. So if a 'prince' is free the AI will marry her to them immediately.
Currently in my game the current greyjoy has two of his daughters married to starks and another to the reigning lannister, its just how the game works. The AI doesnt care about the lore or the story, just the maths and maths wise a princess goes where the alliance or prestige is, not where itd make sense.
The AI doesnt understand that not everyone has to get married, so it marries everyone at the first chance, negative fertility traits are currently the only way to slow it but even then it generally marries them to each other.
 

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I was talking about Yes/No thing in Diplomacy screen, not about AI and the Lore.

If AI can't offer to marry his daughter to his Duke vassals when others are infidels, then yeah, that won't work (but daughters will be still unmarried, no?).

Still, AI goes by some logic, so it should be possible to guide it to do what you want.
 

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Then you should give the perk to Cersei as well. She almost always gets married with Gyles Rosby.

Cersei gains widowed, which is a trait that automatically causes her to divorce people. But it wears off. And Cersei is not master of her own fate in the books, as people like Asha and Brienne are--she's going to get married off by Tywin (although, in this case, because her employer is Joff in 299, by Joff instead).
 

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Also ive just remember noticing that alot of the time there are no candidates for the Kingsguard so it'll sit on one or two members and then when the choice comes up it'll one only have option, quite often your eldest son who says no anyway. I think its because you have to be over 16 and unmarried [just guessing as i haven't checked the files] and the AI is pretty quick at marrying everyone off these days so maybe opening the door to younger applicants would be a way around it.

You can admit people at age 16, though. And you can use the Personal Interaction screen to appoint pretty much anyone (including squires) to the KG. Use the People Finder to restrict the choices to men who are unmarried and aren't rulers, then search through the available candidates. I usually look for formidable or skilled warriors with high martial first.
 

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I'm not sure if the celibate trait works for Asha. In every game I've played she marries Victarion who is also celibate. Arianne keeps marrying Oberyn for some reason also.

There should probably be some events fired if the North wins the war against Joffrey as Tywin, Tyrion, Cersei, Joff, Jaime,Tommen and Littlefinger die in Robb's prison after years of imprisonment.
 
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