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Mad King James said:
Oh that wasn't directed at you, Garbon was being the devil's advocate :p

Hey, someone as to take the job.

Oh, I was working on some graphical locations for 1.08, that province.csv shit is a bitch! And I only had to do two with relation to existing locations. :eek:o
 

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Although I can see the benefits of having something usable...whats the point of putting it out there if its just going to need to be revised anyway. Then you have to keep repeating the province.csv side and such.
My impression going back to months ago now, was that we would take this to HC for discussions and small revisions. I also thought MKJ was essentially (and understandably) washing his hands of it after he was finished, regardless of what HC wants to do.
 

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Just a thought: was any consideration given to an earlier suggestion to move North America a little farther up in order to reorient South America? This doesn't fix the problem of an overly small Caribbean but it might be a more satisfying tradeoff.
 

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Mad King James said:
Oh that wasn't directed at you, Garbon was being the devil's advocate :p

Anyways check out this update, I'm nearly done, just the rest of the seazones and an island chain or two to go.
You are beautiful; Map, too... :)
I am glad that work for applying this to EUII will get underway before the summer is gone from us.
 

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Looking absolutely spanking. I'm a bit surprised it's nearing completion so quickly, someone must have had caffiene injected straight into their veins...

But one question... is Bermuda getting included? It's an excellent stop over for the colonisation of North America. I always grab it if I can in the vanilla map.
 

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Leone said:
Just a thought: was any consideration given to an earlier suggestion to move North America a little farther up in order to reorient South America? This doesn't fix the problem of an overly small Caribbean but it might be a more satisfying tradeoff.

Causes more problems than it solves really...
Far too late for that as well
 

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You still have Chickasaw and Choctaw backwards. The Chickasaw were based in northern Mississippi, along the shores of the river. Their lands did indeed at times extend into western Alabama, but it certainly wasn't the center of their influence. The Choctaw were the ones who were more influential in western Alabama. Please exchange Choctaw and Chickasaw provinces (and spell Chickasaw correctly too).

Hmm, not so sure on the North and South Kentucky thing. I much prefer Kentucky and Cumberland for those provinces, although the latter does have the disadvantage of not being a native name. How about "Appalachia" for South Kentucky maybe (and reverting North Kentucky back to just plain Kentucky)? Or is that putting that name in an historically incorrect location - does anyone know?

My knowledge of the tribes of Canada isn't quite as good as that of those in the US, but didn't the Ottawa also cover the area you have as "North Ontario" as well as eastern Michigan? Surely the capital of Canada got its name from the tribe living near that area. If so, wouldn't "Ottawa" be a better name for North Ontario?


And, in another area of the world entirely - please change "Licia" to "Lycia" in Anatolia! That first vowel is an upsilon and not an iota, and *everybody*, including the Romans, had it as a "y".

While most of Garbon's Central Asia provinces are fine, given the location of Lake Issyk-Kul on the map, his Kashgar province is much too far to the northwest. He pretty much agrees in one of his posts on the last page. Kashgar province should probably be renamed Issyk-Kul or Tien Shan. And can you please put the Syr Darya River on the map, along the northern border of Khwarazm, the northeastern and eastern borders of Kyzyl Kum, and the northeastern border of Samarkand?
 

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I hate to add more Virginia and NA concerns, however, most of the province borders in NA are fine, because they mirror patterns of settlement. The province currently called appamatox, however, goes too far south. Settlement from the Chesapeake bay (between just South of Philadelphia and the VA/NC border) never reached what is now North Carolina. The land is almost impenetrably swampy. In fact, North Carolina was settled from its own seaboard near the Pamlico province, and in the back country by people moving south from VA and MD and such places past where the line of swamps ends. Thus, I'd suggest moving the southern border of Appamatox (please rename it) province north, and having Pamlico province take the land. That area was mainly uninhabited in the time frame - Wilmington is in Pamlico province, Roanoke colony didn't last. New Berne is perhaps the only settlement of import there in the EU2 period, however, New Berne was the only settlement of any size on the North Carolina seaboard for much of the EU2 period too.


Good work overall.
 

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chegitz guevara said:
It's not like it's easy to see, since it takes ten minutes to download, and then even a powerful computer wants to crash.
I'm wondering where the IDs layer is in that PSD, hard to make changes without it.. :confused:
 

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To do quickly the change in the "province.csv" file you can use my tool in my signature.
 

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I´d just like to say I´m very impressed with your map and that I can´t wait to download it and try it out. Its always been weird how easy it is to beat the north-african nations, now hopefully they will have more manpower and more of a bite. Just a question, wouldn´t have been easier and more realistic if you would have made the provinces bigger ( the Terra Incognito ones that is). At least Australia will be hell to colonize, but keep up the good work. Its looking good.
 

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Demetrios said:
My knowledge of the tribes of Canada isn't quite as good as that of those in the US, but didn't the Ottawa also cover the area you have as "North Ontario" as well as eastern Michigan? Surely the capital of Canada got its name from the tribe living near that area. If so, wouldn't "Ottawa" be a better name for North Ontario?

Ottawa, the Capital of Canada, is on the Ontario/Quebec border along the St Lawrence right across from Hull, Quebec, and is in "Ontario" province, not North Ontario. Toronto is in Huron, it's named after a bay in Lake Huron.
 

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Mad King James said:
Ottawa, the Capital of Canada, is on the Ontario/Quebec border along the St Lawrence right across from Hull, Quebec, and is in "Ontario" province, not North Ontario. Toronto is in Huron, it's named after a bay in Lake Huron.

I was talking about the Ottawa tribe, who did indeed (after a bit of double-checking ) live in the North Ontario province on your map, on the northern shore of Georgian Bay and Manitoulin Island. I know Ottawa (the city) isn't in that province - note that I said the tribe lived "near" where the city is today. You could indeed re-name North Ontario to Ottawa, unless you think people will get confused and/or get up in arms over thinking that that means that the province designates Ottawa the city and not the tribe (which would be odd, due to the fact that everything else on the continent is named after the tribe in the area and not later European settlements...)
 

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HoChiMinh said:
This might have come up earlier, but what about the French Mississippi territory? It can't be sold to the US without it existing, can it?

Are you talking about French Louisiana? If you are, all of the important sections of it are on the map, as well as quite a bit of the unimportant parts. A good section of it is indeed in the PTI, but those areas were unexplored and unsettled by Europeans until long after the game period.
 

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Unbelievable work, MKJ. What's the total # of provinces now?

Also:

1) I think someone else mentioned this as well, but are you going to add Bermuda?
2) Any thoughts about my earlier suggestion to pare down Madagascar?
 

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There's still a four-way border among the seazones off the coast of Norway.

And I'm not very happy with the province-shapes in Bulgaria and Greece, they look like US states.
I know it's probably too late to fix them, but would you please consider making them look more like EU2-provinces rather than rectangular shapes?
It's Macedonia and Thrace I'm talking about, the rest are nice.