Mistake with Bolivia

[Earl Uhtred]

It almost happened a few times. We need to know more about the claim mechanism.

 

[Onedreamer]

IMO a lot of the disputed areas in South America would be better represented as provinces with no owner, except for perhaps there being colonial buildings on them. That's probably better for a mod, though.

Even if disputed Chaco still belonged to a nation. Or should we leave Strasbourg/Strassburg and Metz without an owner? :rofl:

 

[Andrelvis]

Even if disputed Chaco still belonged to a nation. Or should we leave Strasbourg/Strassburg and Metz without an owner? :rofl:

Completely different situations. The disputed areas in South America often were quite sparsely populated, which is why they were disputed - control hadn't been asserted by having national populations there.

 

[EMT0]

If I remember well was Peru controlling Bolivia in vanilla, and later in VIP Bolivia controlling Peru. Or maybe the opposite. :rofl: But as I remember it they changed one country by another in VIP.

Yeah, that's right. But VIP had it off, and Paradox had it right for once :rofl: Back then Peru was divided into North Peru and South Peru, and Alto Peru(Bolivia). It was a confederation of 3 states, not 2. It was North Peru that revolted, not all of Peru, seeing as how it was South Peru that first binded the confederation together. Really, if the confederation HAD survived, it would have been called the Peruvian Federation, longterm. My guess anyway. What actually happened is that a man born in Bolivia came to power because of intervention by the Peruvians to kick out Bolivar's men, then civil unrest in Peru resulted in a brief division of the state between supporters of one guy and another. The Bolivian backed the South and in gratitude, he proclaimed the Bolivian supreme protector of all 3 states. While North and South Peru where not formally divided until the formation of the confederation, Bolivia and South Peru loved it, North Peru was bitter for being the loser overall. Essentially, it was led by a Bolivian but dominated by Peruvians economically and politically. In short, it should stay Peru-Bolivia, but once the Bolivian dies, the idea of Bolivia dominating the confederacy dies with him, at which point it just becomes Uber-Peru. Check out Wikipedia for more info if interested.

 

[Cinéad IV]

I think colonial skirmishes might be quite a useful mechanic for claiming unclaimed areas inside South America: it would make a nice sequence of events leading up to a 'Chaco War' style fight between Paraguay and Bolivia.