Missionaries permanently gone

[Myrmonden]

Playing as Spain, who should have 5 missionaries, yet they are all permanently missing.

I cannot send them if I press on a state, no missionary appears as working in the religion tab

No economic cost is currently being used for missionaries

 

[AndrewT]

No real idea, sorry. Is this just in this one particular save?

If you tag-switch to another country is that the case there too?

 

[Myrmonden]

Yeah I tried everything I can think of, turning of the game reloading the save, pressing on other countries, trying to send missionary from the religions tab and from the specific state and so on.
Never seen this before and unfortunately its an Iron Man save so I cannot go back to an earlier state.

- This is how it looks when I try to send a missionary on a specific state it dont say I dont have a missionary but I cannot send one either, its like a non clickable button.

 

[AndrewT]

I haven't played this game for several major versions so I'm frankly not sure what to make of that. If it's s glitch or bug in that Ironman save there's nothing that can be done about it I'm afraid.

I guess I'd suggest posting again in the main forum here for a wider audience of more experienced gameplayers, and see what they think. If it's thought to be a bug then the Bug Reports forum would be the next stop.

Good luck!

 

[grotaclas]

I think this is a bug. It has happened to a few people since at least version 1.29. It is possibly related to forming a new country while a missionary is active in a subject. I tried cause the bug to happen when I heard about it some time ago, but I was unable to do so. It probably needs some very specific circumstances.
There is probably a bug report in the bug reports forum about this issue. Try to find it and attach your save game there. Maybe that helps the developers to figure out how this can happen.

Disclaimer: I'm not working for Paradox. I'm just trying to help people.

 

[Myrmonden]

I did form spain recently (as castile)

 

[Superkurt]

The same situation. I have no missionary. It's gone.

 

[grotaclas]

The same situation. I have no missionary. It's gone.

This is quite an old thread. Since then I have seen at least one bug report which found the source of this bug:
This bug seems to be caused by saving the game at the same day as you form a new country and then loading that save game. If you wait one more day, all busy missionaries automatically return, but they don't return when you load that save again. To avoid losing the missionaries you just have to wait one day after forming a new country before you save and exit the game.

I think I found a workaround that can give you your missionaries back: lose a missionary while all the missionaries that you still have are occupied and then get the missionary back. Each time you do that, you get one of your missionaries back. So in your game you could get the first idea from religious ideas , send that missionary to one of your provinces and then abandon religious ideas again and you should get your original missionary back.
Does this also help in you game?

 

[Superkurt]

This is quite an old thread. Since then I have seen at least one bug report which found the source of this bug:
This bug seems to be caused by saving the game at the same day as you form a new country and then loading that save game. If you wait one more day, all busy missionaries automatically return, but they don't return when you load that save again. To avoid losing the missionaries you just have to wait one day after forming a new country before you save and exit the game.

I think I found a workaround that can give you your missionaries back: lose a missionary while all the missionaries that you still have are occupied and then get the missionary back. Each time you do that, you get one of your missionaries back. So in your game you could get the first idea from religious ideas , send that missionary to one of your provinces and then abandon religious ideas again and you should get your original missionary back.
Does this also help in you game?

Thank you very much for your help. Unfortunately, this game is ironman, so I can't return back and load old saves.

 

[grotaclas]

Thank you very much for your help. Unfortunately, this game is ironman, so I can't return back and load old saves.

The workaround that I posted doesn't require any old save games. You just need the Art of War DLC to abandon idea groups and wait till you get a new tech that gives you another idea group. Then you can pay 400 admin to get the first religious idea, send the missionary to a province and then abandon the idea group again.

The first paragraph of my post was merely to explain how the bug happens so that you can avoid it in the future.

 

[Superkurt]

The workaround that I posted doesn't require any old save games. You just need the Art of War DLC to abandon idea groups and wait till you get a new tech that gives you another idea group. Then you can pay 400 admin to get the first religious idea, send the missionary to a province and then abandon the idea group again.

The first paragraph of my post was merely to explain how the bug happens so that you can avoid it in the future.

My English is not good, so I'm sorry for misunderstanding. Anyway, I'll try to fix the situation as you advise above. Thank you.

 

[_AbS_]

Could confirm still on 1.30.4 and even 100% reproduce. When you a saving game on pause after tag switching and when loading - all busy missionaries gone. No way to get them back. Even if drop for ex DoF or Reg Ideas you could get back only one. The same one

 

[grotaclas]

Even if drop for ex DoF or Reg Ideas you could get back only one. The same one

Did you try to send the first missionary that you got back to a province so that all your missionaries are occupied again before losing and getting back the second missionary? In my tests I would lose idle missionaries first(when abandoning religious ideas or dotf) and only if there were no idle missionaries I would lose the missionaries which were stuck in limbo. In one test, I repeatedly lost the DotF and each time I regained it, I send the new missionary to a province and this allowed me to get back several missionaries.

 

[SnideThunder]

Playing as Spain, who should have 5 missionaries, yet they are all permanently missing.

I cannot send them if I press on a state, no missionary appears as working in the religion tab

No economic cost is currently being used for missionaries

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this happened to me after I formed Russia, I guess its a bug that can happen when you form a nation, (ie. Moskva to Russia) the way I fixed it was to open up the console commands and use "add_missionary[country tag]" and wait one month. fixed it for me... if you're playing iron man mode you're on your own.