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So to contiunue I read book about Normandy invasion from Germans perspective and that tank division were just unable to organise or move at day, there were divisions which Hitler forced to move on the day that lost 2/3 tanks in matter of 2-3 days.
And airplanes had really high chance to penetrate tank armor from the top, but to skip that to part about pilots increasing their claimed tank kills it's obvious that you can atleast divide it by 2. But it happens to all kind of "kill reports" it's not matter of bad will but pilots usualy don't have time to check if they actualy destroyed something.
It doesn't matter if it was tactical or operational loss in HoI that is represented by strenght loss and you need to reinforce it later on...
And airplanes had really high chance to penetrate tank armor from the top, but to skip that to part about pilots increasing their claimed tank kills it's obvious that you can atleast divide it by 2. But it happens to all kind of "kill reports" it's not matter of bad will but pilots usualy don't have time to check if they actualy destroyed something.
It doesn't matter if it was tactical or operational loss in HoI that is represented by strenght loss and you need to reinforce it later on...
A preliminary balance fix could include an increase in ORG damage and a decrease in STR damage.
It's actually easy to change in misc.txt:
Additionally, in order to make mechanised units more vulnerable to aircraft and infantry units less vulnerable, one can change airdefence stats. For example, currently 1941 Armoured division has 5 airdefence, while 1942 INF division has 6 airdefence. Therefore, the difference is not very big ATM.
Another change could be the increase in hard attack of CAS (and TAC, too, but to lesser extent) and a decrease in soft attack.
No new mechanics is needed, unless you want to remodel the way aircraft work in HOI2. Personally, I think that their current representation is a bit clunky and doesn't represent the flexibility of RL aircraft, but changing this would involve a massive overhaul, so I doubt that it will happen any time soon or whether it will happen at all. Still, I think it's possible to achieve the effects you want by changing some moddable values.
It's actually easy to change in misc.txt:
Try halving the STR dmg and multiplying the ORG damage by two.
Additionally, in order to make mechanised units more vulnerable to aircraft and infantry units less vulnerable, one can change airdefence stats. For example, currently 1941 Armoured division has 5 airdefence, while 1942 INF division has 6 airdefence. Therefore, the difference is not very big ATM.
Another change could be the increase in hard attack of CAS (and TAC, too, but to lesser extent) and a decrease in soft attack.
No new mechanics is needed, unless you want to remodel the way aircraft work in HOI2. Personally, I think that their current representation is a bit clunky and doesn't represent the flexibility of RL aircraft, but changing this would involve a massive overhaul, so I doubt that it will happen any time soon or whether it will happen at all. Still, I think it's possible to achieve the effects you want by changing some moddable values.
Don't forget the softattack and hardattack of air units. Late game air-to-ground missile techs should increase hard attack.
All land divisions have softness aswell, and this defines how vunerable it is versus each type of hard/soft attack.
All land divisions have softness aswell, and this defines how vunerable it is versus each type of hard/soft attack.
I kind of wish there was a combined ground attack/support mission I could give my air units that did a bit of org damage and a bit of strength damage. Seems silly that I can bomb units without killing anyone, just making them a bit disoriented.
Sometimes you just want to tell your planes, "Attack Poland!" and let them get on with it. With the way the air game is set up now it'd be most helpful if there was an air AI that just did, "IF I see a lone unit, ground attack it until it's dead ELSE do org damage to any enemy that's in combat".
Also, how come I can't add escorts to my CAS planes? Seems bizarre that my incredibly vulnerable and short-ranged Stukas can't be escorted. Surely they'd be ideal candidates for escort?
Sometimes you just want to tell your planes, "Attack Poland!" and let them get on with it. With the way the air game is set up now it'd be most helpful if there was an air AI that just did, "IF I see a lone unit, ground attack it until it's dead ELSE do org damage to any enemy that's in combat".
Also, how come I can't add escorts to my CAS planes? Seems bizarre that my incredibly vulnerable and short-ranged Stukas can't be escorted. Surely they'd be ideal candidates for escort?
It's very easy to change that.
Find these entries in misc.txt:
Then, change the bolded values. You can easily introduce limited STR damage for Interdiction missions and limited ORG damage for Ground Attack missions. That way, you tell your aircraft to "focus" on sth, but it won't prevent them from inflicting damage or disorganising your enemies.
Keep in mind that default values are balanced for 100% focus, i.e. no STR/ORG damage for Interdiction/Ground Attack.
Hmm, I might just do that. Bizarre that killing men with bombs from the sky doesn't disorganise them at all by default.
It's an old convention established in HOI2 (or maybe even HOI1). It no longer applies to HOI3, but DH sticked with it, for some reason.
Realistically, it would make more sense to only have a single mission type - call it ground attack/support or whatever you want, but have it do both Str and org damage, with mostly org damage.
Imo, the land doctrine of the one being bombed should also impact STR/ORG loss.
Human wave is fairly easy to bomb. Spread out loose guerrilla warfare isn't.
Human wave is fairly easy to bomb. Spread out loose guerrilla warfare isn't.
Actually, Human wave probably represents broad, fairly in depth units and commands. If any doctrine should be susceptible to air attack it's Spearhead - look at how vulnerable the tight German armored columns and troops concentrations were once the allies gained air superiority in France.
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I like the way it simulates "fog of war":
If I don't concentrate and carefully micromanage I'll get high losses and inefficient air missions.
If I pause a lot, think and give precise orders (even arrange the hours of attack) I get very effective results of correctly used airpower.
Makes me feel like a general!
(compare Budyenny to Zhoukov, Himmler to Manstein etc)
If I could say "attack Poland" and HoI does it all by itself, I'd feel like a head of state in a bunker giving desperate orders...
like Albert Hiller !!
