Minor request: Colonial "Louisiana"

[Loaf Warden]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but could the name of Colonial Louisiana and the various CNs that get formed there be changed to "Mississippi"?

Louisiana was named by the French specifically in honor of King Louis XIV. It's really weird to see that area keep getting named "Norwegian Louisiana" or "British Louisiana" or "Portuguese Louisiana" in games where the French have never had a presence there. Instead, I think the region should be named "Mississippi", after the river whose watershed it largely encompasses. This name comes from a Native name for the river, making it plausible that even absent French colonization, the name "Mississippi", or some variant thereof, could still have been used by explorers from Norway or Britain or wherever. (A French CN there should still be called simply "Louisiana", but other nations would yield "Norwegian Mississippi" or "British Mississippi", etc.)

(I know someone is inevitably going to say, "Just mod it yourself." In fact, I am trying to put together a mod that makes some changes to colonial regions, but since I don't actually know how all the relevant files interact with each other--I know jack squat about programming--it's going very slowly and I can't get the game to recognize my changes. If I can ever get it figured out and actually get the mod working, fantastic. In the meantime, I believe the change I'm requesting here makes enough sense to be part of the base game itself, instead of just as a single mod that most people would never use.)

 

[nalivayko]

Makes sense. Default to Mississippi, but keep Louisiana for France. Just like Canada turns into Vinland for Scandinavian countries.

 

[thecryptile]

France might not have a King Louis either. Mississippi would work for them too.

 

[Loaf Warden]

France might not have a King Louis either. Mississippi would work for them too.

Strictly speaking that's true, though France in-game is very heavily weighted toward having kings called Louis. But given that "Louisiana" is actually what the French did call that area, I think it would be just fine to let them keep the name. (If nothing else, we can always imagine they named it after the pre-EU4 King Louis IX; he's the "Saint Louis" they already named so many other places for, but whom non-French settlers would not have named anything after.) They do try to give CNs names that fit history when they come from the relevant parent country ("New Spain" instead of "Spanish Mexico" or, as mentioned above, "Vinland" instead of "Norwegian Canada"), so a French CN there called simply "Louisiana" is not incongruous in the way that it is when it's named that by other countries. In my opinion.

 

[nalivayko]

France might not have a King Louis either. Mississippi would work for them too.

Except that they did have several kings named Louis already before 1453 - ten before Louis the Spider, who is already the heir in 1453. It's not hard to imagine that Louisiana is named after some other French King Louis.

 

[Metz]

You could always have it so it turns into Louisandanna for the English...

 

[Loaf Warden]

Since we know there's a big patch coming later this month, I just thought I'd try again to bring this issue--if it can be called that--to the devs' attention. It seems like a simple enough change that it could be slipped into a patch, couldn't it? Or would it do wonky things to people's 1.12.0 saves? Either way, I'd still like to plant the seed for possibly getting this changed in a future version.

Also, could this thread be moved to the Suggestions sub-forum? I've come to realize that's where it should have been posted to begin with.

 

[thErgonomic]

Also, could this thread be moved to the Suggestions sub-forum? I've come to realize that's where it should have been posted to begin with.

It probably should be moved, but since Louisiana is named after King Louis something, should the name for colonial countries of other nations be a reference to a ruler that they are very likely to have, or a saint? Say Georgiana for British, Isabelliana for the Spanish?

 

[Demetrios]

Or just role-play it and pretend that it was named after some other Louis native to the country in question. In any case, when the Spanish ruled it from 1763 - 1802, it was only slightly renamed to "Luisiana"

 

[DominusNovus]

Or just role-play it and pretend that it was named after some other Louis native to the country in question. In any case, when the Spanish ruled it from 1763 - 1802, it was only slightly renamed to "Luisiana"

After the French had already named it.

 

[Philadelphus]

Say Georgiana for British, Isabelliana for the Spanish?

*cough*Georgia*cough*

 

[heliostellar]

I've thought this before too and completely agree. The name should be Mississippi.