"Minor" nation tanks & manufacturers

[Hanger_18]

Is anyone aware if we will be seeing tanks made by minors, or their manufacturers? or in other words, will we be seeing things like the 35/38 (t)s and skodas from Slovakia ? or turans from Hungry? i know most minors have designations with placeholders from othernations as pics, but for the nations that did make tanks, will they be at least mixed into the tech tree? or only if the full tree can be made?

thanks in advance.

 

[Kozer]

All non majors share a tech tree. So if you look at the tank tree from the Hungary episodes those are the tanks they will make. They won't have flavor names but you can name them yourself.

 

[Hanger_18]

All non majors share a tech tree. So if you look at the tank tree from the Hungary episodes those are the tanks they will make. They won't have flavor names but you can name them yourself.

Hmmm k and what about manufacturers? Do we know if they added any for minors?

I guess some modder will prob make a proper illistration for minor tech trees. I guess it doesnt really matter what you call it as long as it gets the same or balanced stats as "named" tanks....which draws another question. Will all tanks in the same place on the research tree have indenticle stats, or are they flavored?

 

[Zaku]

To be honest I highly dislike the black silhouettes for the tanks of the minor nations. I'd rather have some generic art shared by all of the minors.
Anyways this will be why I download a graphics mod for minor nations. I think changing the gfx won't mess up the checksum, so all is fine.

 

[Zaku]

Hmmm k and what about manufacturers? Do we know if they added any for minors?

I think Hungary has some historical manufacturers like the Weiss Manfred Steel and Machineworks in the game.

 

[Nelfe]

What's sure, is that they add generic manufacturers to minor nation.

 

[Hanger_18]

What's sure, is that they add generic manufacturers to minor nation.

But i mean a company like skoda being left out is kinda wonky.i guess someone could mod manufacturers too.

 

[LordOfWar16]

But i mean a company like skoda being left out is kinda wonky.i guess someone could mod manufacturers too.

minors arent the biggest priority for launch. The developers want to expand the number of non-generic stuff for minors after launch tho, similar to what they did in EUIV for example with the national idea groups etc.

 

[Orlunu]

Pretty certain there'll be DLCs galore adding flavour to various minor factions, but they share pretty much everything at release.

 

[zyphial]

Pretty certain there'll be DLCs galore adding flavour to various minor factions, but they share pretty much everything at release.

While the development costs for such things are supported by DLC purchases, thankfully this sort of content is almost never behind paywalls. It's half the reason I trust PDS (I believe I have spent more money on PDS than any other developer by a wide margin). So, unless there's some huge change in PDS policy, this wont be a DLC. It'll be a free patch.

 

[TheRomanRuler]

or turans from Hungry?

Hungry. You mean same nation that was once part of Austro-Hungry empire? Or maybe Hungary

 

[Orlunu]

You mean same nation that was once part of Austro-Hungry empire?

Those Austrians got so Hungry they gobbled up most of the Baltic at various points.

 

[Miro_pl96]

there is an awesome mod that focuses on the minors like Hungary and Poland
Here is the link: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...840832/&_ga=1.149690166.1451398348.1409046154
The mod has also manufacturers and custom weapon tech (so its not the mp40 for lvl 2 weapons or mp44/stg.44 for lvl 3) but anyway see the mod for yourselves

 

[BurdenedWarrior]

will all tanks in the same place on the research tree have indenticle stats, or are they flavored?

All tanks across all the major and minor tech trees have the same stats. Unless you spend experience to create a varient with boosted stats or if you activate a manufacturer then all equipment -tanks- that are researched after the selection will have the added stats that come with that manufacturer.

So long story short no not all tanks will have the same stats but they all share the same base stats for common tech years!

 

[Hanger_18]

I guess i need to chill a bit. Itl all work itself out.

 

[BurdenedWarrior]

Yeah its never been a bit factor with me and pdx has tried to add flavor in the stats this time round. Which is just added bonus for me. Not sure if any mods have tried to add different stats. That's seems like a nightmare to balance and also what do you do for countried that didnt build tanks/planes. But usually it's not about what the base stats of a tank that is important. But what tech year it is from and what other kinds of equipment does the division have. Like AT, or ART, MOT inf, etc, etc, etc. That always been the important factors in my opinion.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

Nope, I am at least pretty sure only the majors for now get their own tanks and companies. Most minors will just get generic companies for each branch of the military. However, I do believe all vehicles and companies are treated as being indigenous. If you are Bhutan, and you start manufacturing tanks (don't question why or how, just bear with me), all those tanks produced are YOUR tanks that YOUR scientists designed and YOUR workers built (you have just built a Bhutani Purple Salamander Tank). Judging from this, I assume that you could just give your Hungarian or Czech tanks historic names since you can name vehicle models. After all, even great power tanks, are pretty much just cosmetic, and I would assume you would be able to get them modded too.

Though I do hate the black silhouettes. They should just fill the silhouettes with their respective tanks (since all the silhouettes are of actual vehicles).

 

[Kovax]

Depending on which manufacturers you choose and what variants you research, even the majors' tanks may not match their own historical characteristics compared to others of the same timeframe. In other words, a "Panzer IV" could end up with stats more like the historical T-34, and the T-34 could end up more like a historical Panzer IV (or whatever their contemporary would be for that timeframe). The names and images are more-or-less arbitrary for that overall tech level.

 

[Hanger_18]

I guess it adds more pressure to stratagize and research better tanks,rather than rely on your nations hostory.

 

[hkrommel]

I guess it adds more pressure to stratagize and research better tanks,rather than rely on your nations hostory.

Well yeah, the game would be really boring if everything was totally historical