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I have decided to step down as temporary GM.

My last decision is that if a new GM is not chosen before saturday Sweden will get Gamla as player. So it will get the edits he asked for in that case.

This to make sure Sweden will get a perm.
 

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Whether or not giving edits to Sweden is justified, not giving them would be unfair to Gamla, since Daniel already benefited from such edits only a session ago.

In view of this, yes, Sweden *should* be edited.

But does this compromise the game balance? Of course it does. The same way the game was affected when France got the edits.

When a ruler follows another, he cannot undo what the previous one had done, so in this view, granting massive edits in a history-simulation game is a tad nonsensical.

The main thing to be taken into consideration here is: while trying to make the game more appealing to one player that we want to enter the game, there is the big risk of making the game severely unappealing for more than one of the other players of the game, that find their careful planning and investing can be matched or even surpassed by editing a save file.

I am sure that is the reason people vote against the proposed edits. While the first edit was inflation reduction, this second edit request is "5 percent deflation, NT to 18, infra to 6."

How could i approve of this? NL, for example, does not have infra 6, as a matter of fact nobody except Spain has it. How fair would it be to give this advantage to Sweden over the other nations? One does not get to choose the country one subs, and the lack of available players forces the GM's hand to granting the requested edits, just to have a player available for the nation in question.

But, i ask you again: how fair is this? One plays the game watching carefully the others' development, and estimating on their future progress by observing the stats. Foreknowing that Sweden would get this boost, for example, might have changed a lot in the political development, i hope you all agree with me on this.

Granting the edit will maybe secure a player for Sweden. But it will tremendously lower my game enjoyment, and i am certain i am not the only one. However, the decision lies with the GM(s) and i will do my best to respect it, no matter how unfair and unbalancing i might find it.

I only ask the others to voice their opinion on the matter.
 

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Tbh Fnuco sometimes its better to do that instead of having an entire game ruined and let it end abrutedly.

Besides, wasnt Sweden ghosted a lot of time? At least i heard Nab was kind of "absent".
 

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i thuink i have to resign guys, ill mis another 2 sessions in a row. im really sorry.
 

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My opinion on the Sweden edits is that the deflation is acceptable, but the huge boost to tech is absolutely not, only a very strong Spain has infra 6 of all the countries in the game and it is totally unfair to give it to Sweden.
 

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:wacko:

Just came to see how is Sweden doing but I see many other things are all but fine. :(

Bob, take over command.
 

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Sweden got absurd inflation and its income is even lower then Persia... I still wonder why people complain about editing it tbh. I am fairly sure you would get no player to perm it if you did not do any edits (if you did any at all yet).
 

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Bob, I tried to do the best I could. Jumped in the war on the side of Spain and NL, when BB and Russia dow-ed them while they were already engaged against England and Sweden. Figured it may not have been by the letter, but at least the spirit of your instructions. War went not that well, since I overextended and started too many sieges at once. Nothing that can't be reversed, though, since the war is young. Been teching LT and you will reach LT26 before your (potential) enemies will. Use it to your advantage. :p

Built some manus and got 2 by event. You went down in income, but that's due to the last session ending at +3 stab and this one at -1. So don't shoot me for that. :D
 

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BurningEGO said:
Sweden got absurd inflation and its income is even lower then Persia... I still wonder why people complain about editing it tbh. I am fairly sure you would get no player to perm it if you did not do any edits (if you did any at all yet).

well, the former sweden player decided to mint so he could pay some amount of money to russia. It was deliberate, not a mistake. and the time spent on minting could have been put to better use, too, like teching trade or infra. :nods:
 

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Sweden spent some money on war with Russia and also gave some money to it. However, Sweden isn't important - game is.

I can't help much now, but I'm confident Bob will take care of everything professionaly, just as he did in the past.
 

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Sweden spent some money on war with Russia and also gave some money to it. However, Sweden isn't important - game is.

I can't help much now, but I'm confident Bob will take care of everything professionaly, just as he did in the past.

Well, Bob has some problems joining. Which is why he didn't play last two sessions...
 

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Um guys I have moved back to my hometown over the summer and I don't have thar über conn here. :/
Iirc it is 0,5 mbit upload stream. Not that good. So we should try someone else as host.
 

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I won't be around this sunday. I have been looking for subs, but didn´t find one yet. I´ll ask Fnuco and Bob to keep on looking on my behalf.
I´ll send them my instructions.
 

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Seems like i'm joining instead of Engel for Polen
 

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I won't be around this sunday. I have been looking for subs, but didn´t find one yet. I´ll ask Fnuco and Bob to keep on looking on my behalf.
I´ll send them my instructions.
Unless they found one, I could sub you.

Edit: erm... better not, I suck big time playing as Spain. or another colonial.
 
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Bodvar will sub Spain.

Talked to him and gave him mioz's instructions.
 
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