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Van Engel said:
BTW, can I we start on the dot next sunday? I mean that the host has the save before hand and that everyone is in channel 10mins before the start. I for one would actually like to see us start at 4, instead of 10 minutes later or even one hour later.

I would also like to introduce an 'AI' penatly for anyone late. I.e we go at 4 and anyone who is late will have to wait 30 minutes while their country is AIed. It can't be too hard to start up the computer 15 minutes before session start and fire up eu2 straight away.

Hopefully we can either scare latecomers away, or cure their lateness with these measures. ;)

im with Engel on this one.
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I'd be very cautious about scaring players away, its not like we have lots of fresh players queuing up to fill the gaps...
I'd prefer to play with 5 players who we play 4 full hours with, than 15 players we play 2 hours with. ;)
 

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You are silly, if we are left with portugal, spain, austria, poland and persia it would not be much of a game.

and NL! :nods:



PS. God we really need a :nod: smiley.... :mad:
 

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Dr Bob said:
You are silly, if we are left with portugal, spain, austria, poland and persia it would not be much of a game.

i totally agree with bob...i like starting on-time, but i feel everytime bad when a human player of a nation (especially a neighbour) is missing and i take this as oppurtunity to expand or just tech ahead in eco techs as example...
 
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Surely everyone wants to play in this game and thus could make 5-10mins extra free time so we can start on time. I can't believe that no-one is able to do that on a Sunday afternoon. :wacko:

Even if the rule I suggested is passed or not, I won't be staying around if more sessions turn out how they have been the last few weeks.
 

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/me grabs Nab in his neck in the air with his left arm* Grr, we will see how "reliable" I will be next week :mad:

Seems the Russian-Swedish relations are getting worse... :p
 

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Van Engel said:
Surely everyone wants to play in this game and thus could make 5-10mins extra free time so we can start on time. I can't believe that no-one is able to do that on a Sunday afternoon. :wacko:

Even if the rule I suggested is passed or not, I won't be staying around if more sessions turn out how they have been the last few weeks.

I think rehosts will be faster anyway. And hopefully the broken eu2-channel will be fixed. That would save some time as well.
 

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I´m sort of with Engel on this one.

I agree that we must tread carefuly as there aren´t that many EU II players anymore. At the same time, however, I deem it very, very, very important we get more dedication into this campaign. Hence.....I believe we should appeal to all players to really be ontime and at their comps. It is a nauseating experience to have to wait again and again and holler and scream and go completely bananas because someone is afk yet again for some arkane reason... :wacko:
 

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Joohoo said:
/me grabs Nab in his neck in the air with his left arm* Grr, we will see how "reliable" I will be next week :mad:

:)

Van Engel said:
BTW, can I we start on the dot next sunday? I mean that the host has the save before hand and that everyone is in channel 10mins before the start. I for one would actually like to see us start at 4, instead of 10 minutes later or even one hour later.

I would also like to introduce an 'AI' penatly for anyone late. I.e we go at 4 and anyone who is late will have to wait 30 minutes while their country is AIed. It can't be too hard to start up the computer 15 minutes before session start and fire up eu2 straight away.

Hopefully we can either scare latecomers away, or cure their lateness with these measures. ;)

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There is a lot of oposition to OE and its bright future. However OE is great part of world's history and I believe all of you who are now for its destruction, woudl have a different opinion if you were not its neighbours. I'm definitely for editing rebeled balkan minors back to it, even if that means Sweden will have to send armies to help Austria against OE.

However, final decision is not made yet since we have no player for OE. Pls, all of you, don't play backstabbing game out of EUII engine and find some decent player for OE. I will be carefull to listen to voice of people and edit only what won't upset all of you gangers too much, but to substract OE from equasion is quite another matter.
 

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Nabukodonosor said:
I'm definitely for editing rebeled balkan minors back to it

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There is a lot of oposition to OE and its bright future. However OE is great part of world's history and I believe all of you who are now for its destruction, woudl have a different opinion if you were not its neighbours. I'm definitely for editing rebeled balkan minors back to it, even if that means Sweden will have to send armies to help Austria against OE.

However, final decision is not made yet since we have no player for OE. Pls, all of you, don't play backstabbing game out of EUII engine and find some decent player for OE. I will be carefull to listen to voice of people and edit only what won't upset all of you gangers too much, but to substract OE from equasion is quite another matter.

Why slow down the inevitable?

You dont seem to understand that this was no accident. The fall of Ottomans had been planned and prepared for ever since the start. We fought to accomplish just that. I declared war soon after Austria was done to cause maximum damage, we WANT it dead and buried, not dead and then resurrected artificially. Im highly against editing back a goddamn thing to it.

Sure we would think otherwise if OE wasnt our neighbour, but so would those who now arent if they were stuck right next to it.

OE great part of worlds history? Yeah well...so was Denmark, and the situation between OE and Persia right now is the same as it was for you and Denmark, world just aint big enough for the two of you.

OE is dead, or will be dead, with or without edits, with or without player, live with it.

And anyway, Persia, Venice, Austria, Poland and even Netherlands and The Knights have expanded to areas that are usually Ottoman. Even resurrected OE could not accomplish what an average or historical OE would have done. This game is crowded as hell, especially in OE region, so it cant be suprising a player nation gets annexed at some point.

And BLOODY HELL, am i the only one who wants to see a reborn Byzantine Empire ala The Knights?...
 
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Why slow down the inevitable?

You dont seem to understand that this was no accident. The fall of Ottomans had been planned and prepared for ever since the start. We fought to accomplish just that. I declared war soon after Austria was done to cause maximum damage, we WANT it dead and buried, not dead and then resurrected artificially. Im highly against editing back a goddamn thing to it.

Sure we would think otherwise if OE wasnt our neighbour, but so would those who now arent if they were stuck right next to it.

OE great part of worlds history? Yeah well...so was Denmark, and the situation between OE and Persia right now is the same as it was for you and Denmark, world just aint big enough for the two of you.

OE is dead, or will be dead, with or without edits, with or without player, live with it.

And anyway, Persia, Venice, Austria, Poland and even Netherlands and The Knights have expanded to areas that are usually Ottoman. Even resurrected OE could not accomplish what an average or historical OE would have done. This game is crowded as hell, especially in OE region, so it cant be suprising a player nation gets annexed at some point.

And BLOODY HELL, am i the only one who wants to see a reborn Byzantine Empire ala The Knights?...

Yes, you are the only one.

And we don't have to live with it if there is no consensus. ;) Poland, France and Sweden can gang you, for instance, and change whole situation.
 

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Avalanche said:
Why slow down the inevitable?

You dont seem to understand that this was no accident. The fall of Ottomans had been planned and prepared for ever since the start. We fought to accomplish just that. I declared war soon after Austria was done to cause maximum damage, we WANT it dead and buried, not dead and then resurrected artificially. Im highly against editing back a goddamn thing to it.

Sure we would think otherwise if OE wasnt our neighbour, but so would those who now arent if they were stuck right next to it.

OE great part of worlds history? Yeah well...so was Denmark, and the situation between OE and Persia right now is the same as it was for you and Denmark, world just aint big enough for the two of you.

OE is dead, or will be dead, with or without edits, with or without player, live with it.

And anyway, Persia, Venice, Austria, Poland and even Netherlands and The Knights have expanded to areas that are usually Ottoman. Even resurrected OE could not accomplish what an average or historical OE would have done. This game is crowded as hell, especially in OE region, so it cant be suprising a player nation gets annexed at some point.

And BLOODY HELL, am i the only one who wants to see a reborn Byzantine Empire ala The Knights?...


then i agree with lj!
 

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I was just informed informed that I can't participate in Sunday, because I'll be on a travel. Pls, find me a good sub and tell him to build three manus and cooperate with Russia and Austria.

Too bad you wanna screw OE completely, but I can't care about that now.

Dr Bob is in charge for all issues that doesn't need GM voting. (decisions based on rules) If vote between GMs is needed, and/or misunderstanding about rules errupt, Mioz will count as co-GM untill I come back.
 
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