I would guess the agitation is due to the op, who has admitted to being a feminist, using the word misandry. It is roughly equivalent to a admitted racist using the word bigotry.
[mini-mod] Misandry!
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I would guess the agitation is due to the op, who has admitted to being a feminist, using the word misandry. It is roughly equivalent to a admitted racist using the word bigotry.
Well the word itself is quite strong indeed, but i assume it was done in foresight of the reactions it would get anyway. So irony some ?
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I was quite disapointed.
I thought it would be a mod to make the game actually misandrynistic, but it actually makes things gender neutral. Boring
I thought it would be a mod to make the game actually misandrynistic, but it actually makes things gender neutral. Boring
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
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dammit i looked
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
just download, don't look at the comments
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dammit i looked
I'd agree if it was for the vanilla game, but it's a mod, so why the agitation ? Also have you played it and checked it out ?
I havent checked it, but i doubt its actually misandric. If it is, i'd feel tempted to to do the opposite mod.
Because people are bored and like to start drama.
I just.
God really?
I'm a woman and I think this is just plain dumb, from a historical standpoint and from the standpoint of "It's okay to hate men and be sexist towards men, I'm a woman!"
God I hate feminists. Feminism used to mean something and now it's just a way for lesbians and stuck up women to hate men together in public.
God really?
I'm a woman and I think this is just plain dumb, from a historical standpoint and from the standpoint of "It's okay to hate men and be sexist towards men, I'm a woman!"
God I hate feminists. Feminism used to mean something and now it's just a way for lesbians and stuck up women to hate men together in public.
It's a nice mod for those who want to enjoy alternative history. That being said, enabling females in the game to do everything while not being able to nerf males in the same areas will just make the game even easier than it was to begin with.
Ignoring the socio-political commentary/homophobia, A; some of us like the possibility of throwing out history in unique ways, B; you obviously didn't read much more than the title (which, admittedly, is misleading), because its much more of a gender equality mod than anything else. Its also a quick and dirty one; a proper equality mod would typically take several generations of work to get any realm to proper equality, but this is one succession law change away from it.
@Bernie, @Necal
I am pansexual, homophobia is the last thing you're going to get from me. Generalizing all lesbians was a mistake of wording, but the modern feminist movement (at least in America) is nothing but a huge "Let's all hate men together and be immune from criticism" party nowadays.
Also, yes, all I read was the title. I freely admit that, you'll have to forgive me (or not it's really irrelevant) if I automatically assume something with this title is made by a self righteous man hater and not someone who just wants an enatic CK2 experience. This IS the internet.
I am pansexual, homophobia is the last thing you're going to get from me. Generalizing all lesbians was a mistake of wording, but the modern feminist movement (at least in America) is nothing but a huge "Let's all hate men together and be immune from criticism" party nowadays.
Also, yes, all I read was the title. I freely admit that, you'll have to forgive me (or not it's really irrelevant) if I automatically assume something with this title is made by a self righteous man hater and not someone who just wants an enatic CK2 experience. This IS the internet.
First part; eh. That's certainly true of the part that gets the most face time.
Second part; takes like five seconds (fifteen if you're a slow reader) to get to the section where it states that there's nothing really discriminatory against men involved. Though, it does mention that such a thing is an eventual goal (which, considering certain hardcoded limitations, would be an interesting play if nothing else).
The mod creator hasn't come around in 6 months. I'd guess whatever the end goal originally was is moot now.
How is 31 August 2013 six months ? Or are you refering to the gender equality thread in the main forum, as that has been quite as while ?
Also recalling this thread i see how the title for this mod was chosen in ironic foresight of some posters' reaction.
Oh, that's my mistake. The European dating system sometimes throws this American off. I misread.
I don't know that I agree here. Changing all of Europe would take a long time, but the ruling laws of a single realm could be shifted quite a bit faster if the environment was ripe for it. If Haniballa the Great was able to unite Spain and successfully complete her namesake's invasion of Italy through the Alps, she could use whichever councilors and heir she wanted to. Provided she exterminated anyone who might disagree, ofc. I wish you could overthrow the Catholic church the way Visigoths did to the WRE, but hardcoding.
I'm an antifeminist (that is, I think the movement has run its course in the Western world - I would have supported the movement up until several years ago, but no more) and also very concerned with historical accuracy, but I still support mods like this (if not the name - if a title "misogyny" is not OK, then neither is "misandry" but that's debatable and beside the point).
I posted many times in support of enatic succession, not because I wanted to see a liberal-friendly Medieval world, but because I wanted the option to create unique stories where a powerful queen might in one kingdom turn the tables on men, as that would be a remarkable challenge (should be VERY hard to do).
I like this option because I like the power to do things historically near-impossible to do, but also with a high level of challenge to reflect that.
In the case of this mod, think of it as alternate history. What if the Roman Empire in its early days had a unique event which allowed women rulers, and this later transferred to female-only rule? What if Roman sexism had become veneration for women?? Unlikely, but an interesting concept to explore nonetheless.
Or just an earlier/later history. Anyone with enough power through a loyal military could have instituted mandatory drafts of both sexes, dismantled all the Feudal government structures and obliterated the noble class. Using the bottomless manpower and productivity of a Republic (and liberating peasantry from foreign lords cause there wasn't nationalism) they'd eradicate all the Monarchies (excepting the people hiding in wastelands and on islands). What's old can become new again and it is only practical to exploit the other half if you can get 10 or 20 million more soldiers out of it. I'm surprised the Romans didn't do it, tbh, maybe they wouldn't have collapsed.
Hi again, everyone! After a bit of a hiatus, I've finally updated to version 1.1. I added a changelog in the primary post, but I'll add it here too.
And yes, everyone - that means we've got female Popes. Thanks again for all the downloads and kind words!
And yes, everyone - that means we've got female Popes. Thanks again for all the downloads and kind words!
Sadly, no. Also, I can't recommend playing as a female Muslim ruler, since you can't marry matrilinially.