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[Mini-Mod] Catholics can Mend the Great Schism!

Hey everyone! After looking through the forums I was somewhat surprised that there was no mod that allowed Catholics to Mend the Great Schism, despite me hearing people talk about it often (I may be blind though and not have seen it). Since the Schism was only about 10 years old at the start of the game, I'm surprised they dont have the ability to do it in vanilla. That being said, I made this mod!

It's very basic and doesn't change any vanilla files, so it should be compatible with almost anything. It allows any Catholic ruler of Emperor tier (or the Pope) to unite Christendom if they own the Pentarchy. The only real difference between the Catholic and Orthodox decisions is that I made it so you don't have to own Rome, so long as the Pope controls it. Otherwise the requirements and effects are exactly the same as the Orthodox decision, with some flavor text changed here and there.

Some pictures:
Decision and Before
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After

Download v1.1

To Install, just drop it in your "My Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings II/mod" folder!

If anyone wants to use any part of this mod in their own, feel free! Just let me know first.

Version History:
1.1: Fixed minor localisation bug
1.0: Initial Release
 

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I've always wanted a decision like this.
 

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Sounds good!...is it compatible with The Prince And The Thane?

I don't personally use that mod,but since this mod has a very limited scope and edits no vanilla files I'd imagine it doesn't conflict, unless The Prince and the Thane gets rid of the orthodox and catholic religions

The icon in the event doesn't go well with Catholicism. you should replace it.

No, it doesn't, and neither does some of the dialogue, but given the scope of the mod it's not that big of a deal. I couldn't really find a suitable replacement in the GFX folder but I could have overlooked one, so if someone finds one that works better let me know. Otherwise, its not worth changing IMO.
 

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I'd like to integrate this into VIET, it looks quite nice!
 

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I would have the "orthodox" renamed to something else when its reduced to a heresy.

The icon in the event doesn't go well with Catholicism. you should replace it.

That hardly matters. I doubt that the eastern catholics customs would ever look exactly the same anyway.
 
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Would it be possible to work it so Miaphysites can be made into a heresy or make the other two religions into heresies too? Maybe make it so there needs to be a Catholic/Orthodox ruler in Armenia, Egypt and Abyssinia.
 

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If you want to integrate this into VIET, sure! I don't have a problem with that

Would it be possible to work it so Miaphysites can be made into a heresy or make the other two religions into heresies too? Maybe make it so there needs to be a Catholic/Orthodox ruler in Armenia, Egypt and Abyssinia.

Me and one of my friends have been talking about this too. Since I'm on break I'll probably take a look at it somewhat soon once I iron out the details.
 

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I would have the "orthodox" renamed to something else when its reduced to a heresy.
Greek Rite, as opposed to the Latin one? Not the best fit for Bulgaria & Russia, but not the worst either.
 

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Firstly I really like this decision; which was and still is lacking in the vanilla game. After all the Schism was a two way split, so IMHO both sides should be able to mend it.

The icon in the event doesn't go well with Catholicism. you should replace it.

No it does not and it doesn't even have to be replaced.
 

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Awesome work! Been waiting for a mini-mod like this!
I noticed something while rummaging through your localisation file, though. EVTDESCCathSchism.102 says
"the Patriarchate of Antioch has been properly restored as one of the episcopal sees of the Pentarchy in the Eastern Orthodox Church".
The other event descriptions say that they've been restored to the Western Catholic Church. I've not properly tested it yet, so not too sure, but I think this might be an error? Sorry if I was wrong though!
 

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Awesome work! Been waiting for a mini-mod like this!
I noticed something while rummaging through your localisation file, though. EVTDESCCathSchism.102 says
"the Patriarchate of Antioch has been properly restored as one of the episcopal sees of the Pentarchy in the Eastern Orthodox Church".
The other event descriptions say that they've been restored to the Western Catholic Church. I've not properly tested it yet, so not too sure, but I think this might be an error? Sorry if I was wrong though!

Oops. I thought I got rid of all those localisation bugs :p

I'll upload a corrected version in a sec.

Edit: It's up.
 

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If anyone wants to use any part of this mod in their own, feel free! Just let me know first.
I'll be adding this mod to Project Balance :)

I'm hoping you'll eventually develop this further and add a bit more depth to it all; would make the mod pretty great.
 

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CK2+ will be using this if it's ok :D
 

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While I generally do dislike determinism in games about alternate history and love every move to remove such, I have to be a party-pooper for once and say that I think Catholics uniting the Great Schism is a very weird idea. A plausible one, sure, but still rather weird.

The Great Schism was after all when the Patriarch/Bishop of Rome claimed to stand above the other Patriarchs and, more importantly, outside of the Basileus' jurisdiction. So technically Catholicism IS a Herecy of the Orthodox Church, hence why it becomes such when Rome is forced to become part of the Patriarchy under the Basileus once more. The Pope can "easilly agree" to once more become part of the Orthodox Church, a Patriarch on level with the other Four under the Basileus. And on the other way around the Patriarchs can agree to become subservant to the Pope and independent of the Basileus. But I still find it weird. Just my two cents.