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I saw in a thread a while back that one feature from CK1 that people liked was you could be canonized as a Saint after death. Now with 2.4.1 I thought I should make something like that, it is a rather small mod that just upon death the Pope (Catholic or Fraticelli if you have SoA) may choose to make you a Saint as long as you are not one of a few traits and you have a decent amount of piety. Even if you fulfil the conditions the chance it still very small but is increased if you are a good Christian who went Crusading or has a priest education etc. the chance is decreased if you are a convert from different religions. The exact conditions are listed below
It is entirely self contained so should be compatible with any other mod out there, if you wish to use it in a bigger mod then just send me a PM and I'll decide.
I never actually played CK1 so I have absolutely no clue if this is how being made a Saint worked back then so if you have any suggestions feel free to let me know, same with any bugs you find!

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Condtions:
  • Catholic or Fraticelli papacy created with SoA
  • None of: Sayyid, Mirza, Mujahid, Excommunicated, Kinslayer, Homosexual, Possessed, Bad Priest or Hedonist
  • Either 5000 piety or 3000 piety and one of celibate, theologian, priest education, pilgrim, crusader or theocracy

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Updates:
  • Added transaltion and better icon by Arko
  • Antipopes cannot become a Saint
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Credits:
- Me for making it ;)
- Arko for localisaiton translations and better saint icon
- Whoever in the that thread said they liked Saints from CK1

Hope you enjoy!
 
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really nice !

you could probably lessen the chances if you have sins, and increase if you have virtues.
zealous might make its way into sainthood traits either ;)
 
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really nice !

you could probably lessen the chances if you have sins, and increase if you have virtues.
zealous might make its way into sainthood traits either ;)
The sins and virtues are accounted for :p
I couldn't decide with Zealous cause it seems to be a rather easy trait to grab through education from anyone but to meet the others are a bit more difficult, however Zealous does increase your chance of becoming a Saint just doesn't lower the requirements. Saying that the chance itself anyway is rather low being only 10 but I figured we didn't want too many pious people becoming Saints xD
 

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My memories are a bit muddy, but I think it works like this: Some time after a character's death, they might get an event to gain the "Beatified" trait. And then some more time later, they might get canonized as a Saint. This is to emulate the "two miracles after death" criteria for Catholic sainthood, though admittedly it's more of a modern construction, as the exact procedures in medieval times aren't really known. What we do know is that it's likely a very long process, and so it won't be immediate on death.

I really like the miracle facet of it though. If you have interest in making it bigger/more extensive, it'll be great to have random miracle-like events happening to the descent/relatives to the dead person, finally leading to their canonization.

EDIT: Also priests killed by pagans would probably be qualified as well. That would depend on some Proselytize/siege events though.
 
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dying as antipope should disqualify you from sainthood i guess, just saying :p


edit : yes, we neeeed miracles ;)
(maybe increase -a lot- the piety requirement, accomplishing a miracle should help reaching such requirement)
 

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My memories are a bit muddy, but I think it works like this: Some time after a character's death, they might get an event to gain the "Beatified" trait. And then some more time later, they might get canonized as a Saint. This is to emulate the "two miracles after death" criteria for Catholic sainthood, though admittedly it's more of a modern construction, as the exact procedures in medieval times aren't really known. What we do know is that it's likely a very long process, and so it won't be immediate on death.

I really like the miracle facet of it though. If you have interest in making it bigger/more extensive, it'll be great to have random miracle-like events happening to the descent/relatives to the dead person, finally leading to their canonization.
Currently it does take a bit after death to simulate that but in history it was die, if you are a pious guy or whatever be beatified if then some miracle happens after you die you are then properly canonized?

dying as antipope should disqualify you from sainthood i guess, just saying :p
Haha that is probably a good idea, not sure if there is a condition for being an antipope though although saying that don't they auto have a claim on the papacy not that could be checked for I reckon
 

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Haha that is probably a good idea, not sure if there is a condition for being an antipope though although saying that don't they auto have a claim on the papacy not that could be checked for I reckon
antipopes are guys with a claim on papacy title.

Saints could also desserve an entry in chronicles.
 
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Currently it does take a bit after death to simulate that but in history it was die, if you are a pious guy or whatever be beatified if then some miracle happens after you die you are then properly canonized?


It could be a very long process. Check the wiki page for List of beatified people and sort it by date of beatification. Same goes for sainthood. It's more of a petition thing, like someone is revered in their local area, and years or even centuries later people petitioned to have them beatified/canonized. Honestly I think the CK1 method is the way to go. There is no reason to model it after real life.
 

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may i ask if we could have a variation on the character special title to take into account gender (for languages that use such disctintion like French and Spanish) please ?
 

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antipopes are guys with a claim on papacy title.
Done
Saints could also desserve an entry in chronicles.
Also done
may i ask if we could have a variation on the character special title to take into account gender (for languages that use such disctintion like French and Spanish) please ?
Uhhh French has never been my strong point so you're gonna have to give me a hint, if I am correct you want two Saint titles for male and female in English they will both be the same but for French and Spanish they will be different?
It could be a very long process. Check the wiki page for List of beatified people and sort it by date of beatification. Same goes for sainthood. It's more of a petition thing, like someone is revered in their local area, and years or even centuries later people petitioned to have them beatified/canonized. Honestly I think the CK1 method is the way to go. There is no reason to model it after real life.
In that case I'll keep it like it is for now
 
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Done

Also done
nice^^
Uhhh French has never been my strong point so you're gonna have to give me a hint, if I am correct you want two Saint titles for male and female in English they will both be the same but for French and Spanish they will be different?
exactly. unless the special title can be gender changed in localization like SAINT_female, but it's not something that works everywhere, so the double entry solution is probably the safest.

did you see my edit on post #7 ;) ?
but miracles would require a bit more work to add. It is already really nice ATM
 

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nice^^

exactly. unless the special title can be gender changed in localization like SAINT_female, but it's not something that works everywhere, so the double entry solution is probably the safest.

did you see my edit on post #7 ;) ?
but miracles would require a bit more work to add. It is already really nice ATM
Miracles would be pretty neat, will have a think about it.
As for the French thing that will be simple enough just need to know what the masculine and feminine of Saint actually are google translate has just said it is "saint"....

Speaking of which if anyone makes a translation for this let me know and I'll just add it in cause my language skills are pretty awful
 
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Miracles would be pretty neat, will have a think about it.
As for the French thing that will be simple enough just need to know what the masculine and feminine of Saint actually are google translate has just said it is "saint"....

Speaking of which if anyone makes a translation for this let me know and I'll just add it in cause my language skills are pretty awful
Sainte is the feminine way. (yes, all that just for one letter :D)
I'll do the whole localisation for French anyway.
 

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Sainte is the feminine way. (yes, all that just for one letter :D)
I'll do the whole localisation for French anyway.
Haha fair enough, I've updated it to include the female version of saint to be given out, shouldn't effect anyone using English at all really
 
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saint;Saint;Saint;;Sankt;Santo;;;;;;;;;x
saint_desc;This character is a Saint in one of the Christian denominations due to acts on Earth that have caused them to be recognised as a Saint in Heaven.;Ce personnage est un considéré comme Saint parmi les Chrétiens. De part ces actes durant sa vie sur Terre, il pourra dès lors être considéré comme Saint au Paradis.;;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTDESCAsaint_events.3;[Root.GetTitledFirstName], it is with my greatest condolences yet also pride that I write this letter to inform you that your Father, [From.From.GetTitledFirstName] has been recognised by the Church for his actions during his time on Earth so much so he is to be recognised as a Saint, I would ask for you to attend this ceremony which is to be held a few days from now.\n\nSigned,\nHis Holiness, [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName];[Root.GetTitledFirstName], c'est une immense tristesse qui accompagne mes condoléances mais je suis aussi empreint de fierté en vous écrivant cette lettre pour vous faire part que votre défunt Père, [From.From.GetTitledFirstName] par son dévouement et ses actes pieux, a été reconnu par la Sainte Église comme Saint. Je vous demanderais donc de bien vouloir assister à cette cérémonie de canonisation qui aura lieu sous peu.\nSigné,,\nSa Sainteté, [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName];;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTDESCBsaint_events.3;[Root.GetTitledFirstName], it is with my greatest condolences yet also pride that I write this letter to inform you that your Mother, [From.From.GetTitledFirstName] has been recognised by the Church for her actions during her time on Earth so much so she is to be recognised as a Saint, I would ask for you to attend this ceremony which is to be held a few days from now.\n\nSigned,\nHis Holiness, [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName];[Root.GetTitledFirstName], c'est avec mes plus sincères condoléances mais aussi une teinte de fierté que je vous écris cette lettre pour vous faire part que votre défunte Mère, [From.From.GetTitledFirstName] par sa dévotion et sa grande piété, a été reconnue par notre Sainte Mère l'Église comme Sainte. Je vous demanderais donc de bien vouloir assister à cette cérémonie de canonisation qui aura lieu sous peu.\nSigné,,\nSa Sainteté, [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName];;;;;;;;;;;;xEVTOPTAsaint_events.3;Of course I shall attend!;Impossible que je ne puisse y prétendre !;;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTTITLEsaint_events.4;Saint [From.From.GetFirstName] [From.From.GetOnlyDynastyName];Canonisation de [From.From.GetFirstName] [From.From.GetOnlyDynastyName];;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTOPTAsaint_events.4;Saint [From.From.GetFirstName] has made me proud, I hope I can live up to [FromFrom.GetHerHis] legacy;J'espère pouvoir être digne de l'héritage de la lignée de [From.From.GetFirstName] !;;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTOPTBsaint_events.4;Saint [From.From.GetFirstName] has made the [FromFrom.GetOnlyDynastyName] proud;La dynastie [FromFrom.GetOnlyDynastyName] est fière de la canonisation de [From.From.GetFirstName];;;;;;;;;;;;x
EVTOPTCsaint_events.4;Saint [From.From.GetFirstName] has made our dynasty proud;Notre dynastie est fière de la canonisation de [From.From.GetFirstName];;;;;;;;;;;;x
SAINT;Saint;Sainte;;Sankt;Santo;;;;;;;;;x
SAINT_female;Saint;Sainte;;;Santa;;;;;;;;;x
CHRONICLE_NEW_SAINT;[From.From.GetFirstNameWithNick] [From.From.GetOnlyDynastyName] was formally canonized as a Saint by [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName] on [GetDateText].;[GetDateText] est un jour glorieux et mémorable, [ThePope.GetTitledFirstName] a canonisé l'un des nôtres, [From.From.GetFirstNameWithNick] [From.From.GetOnlyDynastyName] l'élevant ainsi au rang de Saint. Son nom sera dès lors célébré chaque année à cette même date.;;;;;;;;;;;;x

hopefully i didn't made some code mistake :p

edit : typo
 
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Arko

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just made an icon for it as well ;)

edit : just posted a slightly tweaked version of the icon
 
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SirRitter

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Nice! One question though, besides the trait, shoudn't the character also be called "saint"? Maybe you could make it work much like a title.

You know, instead of "King Olaf the Crusader" the character in question would be posthumousy called "Saint Olaf the Crusader". That would be awesome.