Ming is diplo-vassalising most of SEA in every game now

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As Ming I generally diplovassalize one or two SEA countries and feed them the rest of SEA with culturally appropriate provinces.

Fun to see the AI do it now. Computer Ming seems to implode half the time, and blob the other half.
 

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Well, makes sense they can do this, since the relative base tax comparison only accounts for base tax, it ignores things like autonomy, which is supposed to be Ming's counterweight to the added base tax they recieved.
 

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Good ming opener:
Dow for Vietnam, let champa Dow them, then force vasslize both.
prepare for Vietnam to be one of your few friends. Keep them so they can fight for you.
Your troops are horrible. get as many small vassals to fight for you as your dip can.
bonus if you get a Japanese diamyo/Nepal. They aren't Prussia but pretty damn good as a beatstick vassals and hit like a truck.
Most likely Thailand will cock block alliance Web you down. Same as orait.
you can snipe Manchu hordes as well. You accept them, so eat away.
Then eat then Siberia opms, and get a Alaska cn.
Dosent matter if they are chinese, No one can/wants to take them anytime soon. go to Mexico, bam! Westernisation!:cool:
 
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As Ming I generally diplovassalize one or two SEA countries and feed them the rest of SEA with culturally appropriate provinces.

Fun to see the AI do it now. Computer Ming seems to implode half the time, and blob the other half.

Keep in mind that if a player chooses a lucky nation, the 10th lucky nation is not the player's nation, but rather Ming.
 

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Not entirely a-historical since most of the region had a tributary relationship to China at one point or another. Ming diplo-annexing them is odd but EU4 mechanics kind of preclude long-term vassal relationships.