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I_am_Nemo

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Has anyone found/compiled a definitive list of the factors in Ming canceling you tributary status? It has something to do with size/proximity, obviously, but it's hard to work out exactly what's going on. For instance, my 300 dev Nepal got tributary status broken; not sure if it's because A) Size/Army Size, B) Temporarily Bordering Ming (they took provinces from a former tributary, then returned them) C) POI, D)All of the Above, E) None of the Above, or F) U, that's why.

While I'm at it, this is the kind of info that probably should be available in game, at least to some extent. I'm thinking along the same lines of the (very helpful) "Ally about to break alliance" warning, where you know 1) Why, 2) what can be done to avoid it.

And as a third point, at various points of the following war, Ming would/would not accept "Make Nepal a tributary" as the sole offering to secure peace, and I think it was an option right before I finally white peaced them. Seems odd that I couldn't beg my way back into tributary status diplomatically, but they'd have accepted it as a peace offer. Ming in general seems moody as heck.