Military control 'kills' AI

[Jopi]

Sometimes after taking military control, the AI of that country just stops doing anything. AI only starts stacking it's troops in capital and doesn't move any troops. Anyone else had the same?

Countries that have this problem:
- Rep. Spain
- Japan
- Germany

Strangely, though, Italian AI still works under mil. control.

 

[unmerged(14078)]

If you take military control of the country you are supposed to control all it's units moves.

Regards/
Klaus

 

[jdrou]

Originally posted by S. Klaus


If you take military control of the country you are supposed to control all it's units moves.

Regards/
Klaus

It seems to vary though. Many people have exactly the opposite complaint: they order the troops somewhere and the owner then moves them somewhere else.

 

[unmerged(12680)]

Originally posted by Jopi
Sometimes after taking military control, the AI of that country just stops doing anything. AI only starts stacking it's troops in capital and doesn't move any troops. Anyone else had the same?

Countries that have this problem:
- Rep. Spain
- Japan
- Germany

Strangely, though, Italian AI still works under mil. control.

The Italian AI does indeed move on its own even when under MC. I have experienced this, many, many times, when trying to get them to defened North Africa and Italy, rather then push down to South Africa...

 

[unmerged(14078)]

Originally posted by jdrou
It seems to vary though. Many people have exactly the opposite complaint: they order the troops somewhere and the owner then moves them somewhere else.

Yeah, i know.

Ground units are usually OK, just have to check on them once and a while. Airplanes are a pain though.

Jopi:s "problem" is however that the "ai" doesn't move it's units once you've taken military control over them, but this is how it should work IMHO.

Regards/
Klaus

 

[jdrou]

Originally posted by S. Klaus
Yeah, i know.

Ground units are usually OK, just have to check on them once and a while. Airplanes are a pain though.

Jopi:s "problem" is however that the "ai" doesn't move it's units once you've taken military control over them, but this is how it should work IMHO.

Regards/
Klaus

But as he and anti_strunt noted, the Italian AI does still move. I agree that it probably shouldn't. Of course that could be a pain since there's no way to give up control without editing the savegame.

 

[Vulture]

Ok I could log a proposal on this...

So what do you want

A) Controlled AI doesn't move anymore at all, leaving all moves to the controller

B) Controlled AI does some moving

???

 

[unmerged(14078)]

Originally posted by Vulture
Ok I could log a proposal on this...

So what do you want

A) Controlled AI doesn't move anymore at all, leaving all moves to the controller

B) Controlled AI does some moving

???

A)

Regards/
Klaus

 

[jdrou]

I'd say "A" too since I have no problem editing the savegame if I decide to give control back.

 

[unmerged(19458)]

Most definately A. Could we also somehow get notified when units under our MC are involved in combat? Nothing like going to pick up some troops and find out half the country is under enemy control. You'd think they'd have sent a telegram or something.

 

[Jopi]

Perhaps A), but AI should at least deploy it's troops to the front. You can't redeploy them, so sometimes you'll have to walk several months to the front.

 

[unmerged(12544)]

A) and that this bug is fixed (see DAW)

Bug 4944
Military Control should also produce battle msgs

Severity: Major
Status: Open

 

[unmerged(13008)]

Originally posted by Ögedei Khan
A) and that this bug is fixed (see DAW)

Bug 4944
Military Control should also produce battle msgs

Severity: Major
Status: Open

Yes...

This is really nasty, since you have to keep own troups with controlled ones, to know whats going on.

 

[Vulture]

Ok then... A it is

 

[unmerged(12680)]

I can confirm that the commonwealth nations (Canada, South Africa, New Zeeland and Australia) also suffer from this problem (that they still move when Mil.Con.ed, not the other way around).

I tried to gather their forces in England for a great invasion of occupied Europe, but they kept pulling away their units to make those unsupported 1-division landings the AI is famous for...

 

[Vulture]

Ok thx, added

 

[juv95hrn]

Originally posted by Vulture
Ok I could log a proposal on this...

So what do you want

A) Controlled AI doesn't move anymore at all, leaving all moves to the controller

B) Controlled AI does some moving

???

A) Pretty please with sugar on top!

I can't begin to tell you how many times I see the AI make the most idiotic moves with his troops lie fx driving severely damaged ship with zero org on long range sucide missions wasting precious oil in peace time. Attacking at 1-10 odds into mountains, over river in bad weather. In MP its actually preferd to kill your natural allies as foremost the Axis to NOT have to deal with the crazy AI:s moves. 33% IC and no extra troops is preferable than the AI moving the troops around. Military control disabling the AI would be almost as wonderful as a total reconstruction of the game interface.

Thank you for listening to me regarding this!

 

[Vulture]

Well, I can only pass on the word It's only a proposal for now

 

[Tel]

I prefer the A option also, and have another wish. Could we get a message when a province of a country we have control over is lost to an enemy? Having battle messages for the ally's units would help, but if you haven't garrisoned every coastal province of the ally then you lose a good part of the country before you notice the invasion. This is the main reason why I never take MC over any allies anymore.

 

[GLENN]

Yes, I vote A

But it is challenging to have the AI counter move your orders once in awhile.