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About four days ago I finally got the cd-driver to play EU.
I currently have games of England, Finland, Turkey (no Byzantium), Netherlands, and Denmark-Norway going.

I know that alot to keep going, but I think I can fit one more. The ones in the title have intertsed me most, so which of the mentioned nations in the title do you recommend?

I know Hungary is a vassal. That only makes it more fun.;)
 

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Originally posted by Rex Francorum
Are you sure it is EU1 and not EU2? Finland is not a country in EU1 nor Byzantium or Serbia and Hungary is not a vassal in the game. ;)

IGC options could give you Finland Serbia or Byz as players. and HUngary is dooemd to become a vassal anyway.

regardless of version, try hungary. they are very poor, lack sea access and have a powerful neighbour with a CB against them -- the turks. mostly doomed (that word again) , but not necessarily.
 
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Mameluke bird is nice, but if you're doing IGC the funniest game I had in EU1 was with the Golden Horde. Switzerland comes in as a close second, but wasn't played for as long.
 

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Originally posted by saskganesh
IGC options could give you Finland Serbia or Byz as players. and HUngary is dooemd to become a vassal anyway.

regardless of version, try hungary. they are very poor, lack sea access and have a powerful neighbour with a CB against them -- the turks. mostly doomed (that word again) , but not necessarily.

Sorry, I never used IGC. :eek:
 

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Go for the Mughals in the IGC. They get colonists and its cool to oclonize India. Rich CoT, easy access to Middle Est and China...Mughals are my favorite country to play.
 

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Milan can be tough. France likes to conquer Milan and if they actually make a determined effort, they will, whether you like it or not. Milan is fun, you can expans south to Italy, or into the HRE, and France is always next door waiting to bitch-slap you when you screw up. Downside is that not a lot of colonizing goes on with Milan...you may get a few here and there, but overall you'll be in Europe for 300 years.
 

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Play with Morroco ...great geographical positon, you can easily expand .. cheap infintry, you can easily get colonists(Andalusia;)).
 

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Mughals!!

Absolutely my favourite minor (at the moment) and probably the most exotic of the playable nations (I don't consider the pagan nations, like the chinese and the aztecs, as playable because they don' t evolve technologically).

They easily dominate the Indian peninsular in the early years of the game, which gives them a very solid financial base.

The only potential threat in the beginning of the game is Persia, which is still a pushover, and they are usually ripe for annexation in the first half of the 16th century.

When and if the European nations become a problem, it's probably because your borders have expanded all the way up north, and at that point in the game, you are most likely all but omnipotent.

In the one Mughal-game I have played to a glorious conclusion, I ended up with all of Asia and the Middle-east, most of Russia and a couple of provinces formerly belonging to PL. I even clashed with Spain for control of the old Incan provinces, because they kept expelling my traders, thus giving me a free CB...

Their is one, slightly annoying problem with the Mughals however: Around 1650 they get a seriously incompetent ruler, who lives for about 60 or so years. During his reign all sorts of bad, bad random events occur. Especially the -1 stab/-1/2 of investments in trade and infrastructure event is rampant. I think I was hit by it 10-15 times during those years. Random uprisings are also legio. At one point 3/4 of my troops "joined the rebels" (in the viscinity of 400.000 men) and 20 or so provinces rebelled. This was just a random event - not the effect of instability, war or religious intolerance!

But of course this can be remedied by turning of random events ... if that's your style;)
 

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Originally posted by mjuul
Their is one, slightly annoying problem with the Mughals however: Around 1650 they get a seriously incompetent ruler, who lives for about 60 or so years. During his reign all sorts of bad, bad random events occur. Especially the -1 stab/-1/2 of investments in trade and infrastructure event is rampant. I think I was hit by it 10-15 times during those years.



Random uprisings are also legio. At one point 3/4 of my troops "joined the rebels" (in the viscinity of 400.000 men) and 20 or so provinces rebelled. This was just a random event - not the effect of instability, war or religious intolerance!

But of course this can be remedied by turning of random events ... if that's your style;)


Easiest way to cheat out of the Mughals would be to save and reload after the crappy monarch. See, those events aren't random, they come with the king, but the game only checks them when the king is put on the throne, not if you load the game later.

And the thing where you got armies rebelling, that would be a 'civil war', an oxymoron, a pain in the behind, and great fun :D
 

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Play as either Sibir or Brittany!:D Both are really cool countries.

Brittany is much easier b/c of the French alliance, but Sibir is really fun and challenging.
 

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Actually, unfortunately, you can't turn of the random events the Mughals get because they're not random. They are programmed in to be monarch specific. However, wit a bnot of editing, you can remove them, but playing through a civil war is fun, especially since by that time you will probably be a superpower.,
 

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Be careful as Vinland though. You may be able to get los of TP's but once that's finished, you dont get much of an income.
 

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I've always wanted to do a vinland game just so I could rule N. America before anyone else and then go out and conquer Europe as a surprise move.:D
 

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I not easy though. I can't even colonize New Foundland successfully, and I've lost all my money.

As Morrocco, I conquered two Algerian provinces and I'm gearing up to finish the job.

As the Mughals, I annexed Hyderabad easily, I'm expanding effortlessly in India and I'm preparing for a clash with Mysore.
 

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Just two provinces? Why didn't you take them completely? The decrease in Sunni relations wouldn't be that major, b/c the Mameluks is Shiite, and the closest Sunni is Turkey which is likely preoccupied with the Mamelukes and Persia.
 
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The Mughals are fun to play. Dont worry to much about that one ruler. As Persia, you get several of such monarchs.
I hardly remember this one, even though my M. game is pretty recent.