Migrating courtiers with vague family ties?

[Valhallas Call]

Well this is interesting... I am playing a game as Denmark, it's around 1110. Maybe 10 years earlier I married off a Knýtling princess into the Castillian royal family... just recently, Castille fell to the Moors, and this princess (an aunt of my current king, I believe) fled back to Denmark, along with her spouse and his siblings. So now I have a number of Castillians in my court, and even weirder, there is now a Spanish branch of the Knýtling family. A Manuel Knýtling, and his children Miguel, Pedro, and Esmeralda Knýtling :wacko:

Added on top of that, there is also a Bohemian branch of the Knýtling family that recently fled to Denmark, after Bohemia was conquered by Poland. As far as I can tell, this Bohemian line was sired by one of my king's uncles, who left the court of one of my duchies back in the 1070s without me even noticing :wacko:

This could, of course, make for a very, very interesting roleplay, as I strive to place these funky little family branches onto the thrones of their respective countries.

 

[Terrifying Effigies]

I had something similar happen in one of my games. The Spanish kingdoms were getting slaughtered, so as Brittany I sailed down and retook a few territories on the coast from the Moors. A few years later when the first Spanish kingdom finally fell for good, half their court migrated en masse to my own. When all the dust settled I think nearly the entire Jimenez family with all of their retainers passed through at one point or another, although most of them drifted on after a few years when it was clear I wasn't giving them any titles.

It was funny when the very last of them showed up at my door - the inbred, stuttering, halfwit King of Aragon with his cousin bride, escorted by the last dying duke of his grandfather's court. It's pretty bad when the last *three* generations of your line married their aunts/cousins/nieces :wacko:

 

[HisMajestyBOB]

I've had Portuguese-Irish and Georgian-Italians in CK. It's not uncommon when you marry someone from a "doomed" country, like Georgia, anyone in Iberia, and anyone next to the Mongols. I like to set them up as Dukes somewhere if its impractical for me to recover their country.

 

[zachhcaz22]

Damn you, HisBajestyBob, I lost the game.

Anyway, I've had that happen a lot too. In my Kingdom of Jerusalem there are de Provences ruling many random counties and duchies scattered throughout Europe, none of which have the Occitan culture besides my main branch and the ones I've kept inside my own kingdom. Even then some of them are Greek, Berber, and even one or two Gaelic family members.

 

[TempestDK]

Well this is interesting... I am playing a game as Denmark, it's around 1110. Maybe 10 years earlier I married off a Knýtling princess into the Castillian royal family... just recently, Castille fell to the Moors, and this princess (an aunt of my current king, I believe) fled back to Denmark, along with her spouse and his siblings. So now I have a number of Castillians in my court, and even weirder, there is now a Spanish branch of the Knýtling family. A Manuel Knýtling, and his children Miguel, Pedro, and Esmeralda Knýtling :wacko:

Added on top of that, there is also a Bohemian branch of the Knýtling family that recently fled to Denmark, after Bohemia was conquered by Poland. As far as I can tell, this Bohemian line was sired by one of my king's uncles, who left the court of one of my duchies back in the 1070s without me even noticing :wacko:

This could, of course, make for a very, very interesting roleplay, as I strive to place these funky little family branches onto the thrones of their respective countries.

In this game it is not so weird to see "off-cultured" dynasty members. I believe there is a 65% chance of any child gaining the culture of their father, 20% of gaining mother's culture and 15% gaining the province culture (the actual values might differ a bit).

So if you marry off a danish Knytling to a castillian ... then it is almost certain that most of the kids will be castillian culture.

After a while you will see this pattern all over the map ...I have seen an armenian in charge of the Seljuk turks after only 3 generations. Or it could be a serbian ruler of the HRE or gaelic duke of Finland.

As far as I know, the AI is not really concerned with keeping within a specific culture group when marrying, so after a few hundred years, cultures will have migrated all over the map.

 

[czam2007]

For 200 years Ive kept my main line of my dynasty Dutch but now ruler is Norman, which wont be to bad since I plan on expanding into Northern France.

I also have Dutch, German, Italian, French, Scottish, Bohemian and Greek branches of my dynasty.
They have titles from Prussia to the Highlands.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

In this game it is not so weird to see "off-cultured" dynasty members. I believe there is a 65% chance of any child gaining the culture of their father, 20% of gaining mother's culture and 15% gaining the province culture (the actual values might differ a bit).

Its 70% father, 15% mother and 15% capital, with the exception (in DV) that if your capital has a 'dark' culture (like Arab f.e.) and your parents both have 'light' culture (like f.e. German) then the child will also, always, have a 'light' culture.