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Does anyone think it would be a good idea to have the adoption of the metric system as a tech, or as an invention enabled by a tech?

You could say the adoption of the metric system was an economically and industrially important enough event to put in the game. By comparison, There are already four or five techs for different ways to print banknotes.

Would you make the metric system a tech or an invention? In which area of technology would you put it? What would be its effects on the country?
 

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Wasn't the metric system invented by the French in the 18th century, which is before the start of Victoria's Grand Campaign Scenario? If so, the Europeans already implicitly have use of the metric system.

Anyways, the USA still doesn't use metric, and this doesn't seem to have held them back much in the last couple of centuries.
 

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jezuskryst said:
Wasn't the metric system invented by the French in the 18th century, which is before the start of Victoria's Grand Campaign Scenario? If so, the Europeans already implicitly have use of the metric system.

Anyways, the USA still doesn't use metric, and this doesn't seem to have held them back much in the last couple of centuries.

All scientists everywhere in the world use the metric system, and they have since it was first popularized. This includes American scientists.
 

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All scientists everywhere in the world use the metric system, and they have since it was first popularized. This includes American scientists.

Yes, but my understanding of it is that most European governments (including France itself) only enforced its use for industry and trade in the decades after the Napoleonic Wars.

At the least, the 1875 "Treaty of the Meter" might make a worthwhile global event mod. A country could click the "Convert" or "Don't Convert" button.

http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/dates.htm
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/metric.html
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/internat.htm
 

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jezuskryst said:
Anyways, the USA still doesn't use metric, and this doesn't seem to have held them back much in the last couple of centuries.

Except when they lost a satellite because of unit conversion problems.

Leone said:
All scientists everywhere in the world use the metric system, and they have since it was first popularized. This includes American scientists.

Except the NASA...
 

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jezuskryst said:
Wasn't the metric system invented by the French in the 18th century, which is before the start of Victoria's Grand Campaign Scenario? If so, the Europeans already implicitly have use of the metric system.

Anyways, the USA still doesn't use metric, and this doesn't seem to have held them back much in the last couple of centuries.

Well neither of these things would disqualify its use within Victoria. The adoption of decimal currency is an invention within the game, even for the United Kingdom, despite the dual factors that 1) the UK didn't adopt decimal currency until 1972 (or 74?) and 2) the UK's continued use of LSD currency throughout Victoria's time period did nothing to stop London being the world's financial centre.

I think it's a good idea.

Ian
 

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Kort said:
Except when they lost a satellite because of unit conversion problems.
...Except the NASA...

LOL. You're absolutely right; metric is a far superior system for science and everyday use, anyone who has used both systems would quickly realize that.

But in Vicky, the USA would automatically research the metric tech, just like the British research decimal currency, even though some of their rocket scientists still don't bother to use it.

Kenaston said:
At the least, the 1875 "Treaty of the Meter" might make a worthwhile global event mod. A country could click the "Convert" or "Don't Convert" button.

So if you're going to make a metric tech or invention, having the choice to "convert or don't convert" is a good idea. The USA AI would usually choose not to convert.
 

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jezuskryst said:
So if you're going to make a metric tech or invention, having the choice to "convert or don't convert" is a good idea. The USA AI would usually choose not to convert.
Hmm. Now I'm wondering what the proper effects of the event decision should be. I'm thinking:

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Don't Convert:
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-No effect.

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Convert:
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-Slightly increased economic and/or industrial efficiency?
-Small one-time financial cost?
-Variable increase in POP Mil. and/or Con. (depending on nationality)?
-Small prestige cost or gain (depending on nationality)?
 

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Great idea. A metric invention could have the following effects:
decrease productivity by -40%
increase revolt risk by 40%
increase loan interest rates by 15%
decrease clerk efficiency by 200%
decrease capitalist bonus to 0
decrease aristocrat bonus to 0
decrease gun attack chance to hit by 500%
decrease torpedo attack chance to hit by 500%
add 1 research point

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Ok, I have to apologize. I was being a smartass.

This isn't a bad idea, but I would keep it as a flavor event or something, adding 1 prestige and 1 research point, no more.

Steele