Mesoamerica, how to improve with little changes

[BuchiTaton]

With the news of the next Immersion Pack about Iberia and considering the size and design of previous ImPack, it looks logic to me to expect some new provinces and tags related to Iberia. Even if Iberia get more that 15 new provinces is also likely we get even more provinces and tags in an "Iberia related" region. My bet is on Italy or Maghreb.

Other obvious Iberian-related option is Americas, but this would be too much for a simple ImPack. Or not?

Well, since I was expecting other theme for the next DLC, and at the time I am working in my MOD about the Americas and other colonial regions, the revelation about Iberia Impack can be a chance to propose a "light version" of my way more ambitious UPGRADE OF MESOAMERICA AND RELATED REGIONS.

In short I propose to redraw the majority of mesoamerican provinces (with many related changes and corrections in names, trade goods, cultures, etc.), replace 5 provinces with other more relevants in the same region and add JUST ONE new province. These changes give us a more historical, gameplay balanced and interesting representation of Mesoamerica and related regions, including 16 new nations!

The next maps try to show what Im talking about ( I apologize about not give right now a way more detailed explanation of each element, gonna add references in the following. I took the decision to post this now in the hope that devs could add some Americas related content with any patch after Iberia Impack even knowing they probably have already plans for many months in advance).

PROVINCES MAP CHANGES:

The provinces with ID number are the 5 replaced ones, plus the new one.
- PROVINCES NAMES BASED ON LOCAL NATIVE NATIONS

Spoiler: PROVINCES NAMES BASED ON LOCAL NATIVE NATIONS

- COLONIAL NAMES WITH CONQUEST DATE

Spoiler: COLONIAL NAMES WITH CONQUEST DATE

- NAHUATL NAMES

Spoiler: NAHUATL NAMES

- OTHERS NATIVE LANGUAGES NAMES

Spoiler: OTHERS NATIVE LANGUAGES NAMES

Antigua Historia de México. (Melgarejo, J. L.)
Wars and Conquests in the Crónica mexicana (Battcock, C.)
La costa de Michoacan, Mejico, en el siglo XVI (Novella, R.)
El Imperio Tarasco en el mundo mesoamericano (Peristein-Pollard, H.)
Contactos exteriores del Estado Tarasco: Influencias desde dentro y fuera de Mesoamérica (Albiez-Wieck, S.)
Mixtecos: Pueblo de lluvia. (Fundación cultural Armella Spitalier)
Toponimias indigenas de Nicaragua. (Incer, J.)

NATIVE NATIONS AT 1444

New nations:
- Hopi

Spoiler: Hopi

• Culture: Pueblo
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 2493

- Zuni

Spoiler: Zuni

• Culture: Pueblo
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 2494

- Keres

Spoiler: Keres

• Culture: Pueblo
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 2495

- Tiwa

Spoiler: Tiwa

• Culture: Pueblo
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 880

- Yaqui

Spoiler: Yaqui

• Culture: Sonoran
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 862

- Tarahumara

Spoiler: Tarahumara

• Culture: Sonoran
• Tech: North American
• Goverment: Native council
• Religion: Totemism
• Provinces IDs: 864

- Xalisco

Spoiler: Xalisco

• Culture: Corachol
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 865, 2667 , 855 (capital)

Los antiguos habitantes de Jalisco (Weigaud P. C. & García de Weidgaud A.) in Guadalajara en tres tiempos: Ayer. (Saldaña-Villareal M. I.)
El occidente de México: Arqueología, historia y medio ambiente. Perspectivas regionales. Actas del IV Coloquio Internacional de Occidentalistas (Ávila R., Emphoux J. P., Gastélum L. G., Ramírez S., Schöndube O. & Valdez F.)
Análisis de las principales etnias del estado de Jalisco. (Medarano-Rodriguez, A., Duarte-Leon, L. D., Godinez-Cortes, V. N., Hernandez-Barajas, D. D., Palos-Amador, A., Rivera-Zapien, S., Temores-Zaragoza, J. G. & Pérez-Meza, L. E.)

- Chichimec

Spoiler: Chichimeca

• Culture: Chichimec
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 2617, 857 , 856 (capital)

- Huastec

Spoiler: Huastec

• Culture: Huastec
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 883 , 858, 2641 (capital)

Sources:
The Huasteca: Culture, History, and Interregional Exchange (Katherine A. Faust, Kim N. Richter)
Los Huaxtecos, según los informes de Sahagún (León-Portilla, Miguel)

- Otomi

Spoiler: Otomi

• Culture: Otomi
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 853 , 2615 , 2642 (capital)

- Mazahua

Spoiler: Mazahua

• Culture: Mazahua
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 2645 , 2623 , 2626 (capital)

- Zoque

Spoiler: Zoque

• Culture: Zoque
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Nahuatl
• Provinces IDs: 2631 , 2638 , 851 (capital)

Territorialidad e identidad histórica de los zoques de Chiapas. (Velasco-Toro, J.)
Cien años de gueras mixes: territorialidades prehispanicas, expansión burocrática y zapotequización en el itsmo de Tehuantepec durante el siglo XVI (Barros-Van Hövell tot Westerflier, A.)
Las divisiones políticas de Chiapas: siglos XVI-XIX (Pedrero-Nieto, G.)

- Chontal

Spoiler: Chontal

• Culture: Chol
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Mayan
• Provinces IDs: 2635 , 2650 , 2632 (capital)

Las divisiones políticas de Chiapas: siglos XVI-XIX (Pedrero-Nieto, G.)

- Cuzcatlan

Spoiler: Cuzcatlan

• Culture: Nahua (Aztek)
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Mayan
• Provinces IDs: 839

- Lenca

Spoiler: Lenca

• Culture: Lenca
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Mayan
• Provinces IDs: 2653 , 2637 , 2640 (capital)

Acerca de la relación genealógica de las lenguas y las lenguas Misumalpas. (Constenla-Umaña, A.)

- Chorotega

Spoiler: Chorotega

• Culture: Mangue
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Mayan
• Provinces IDs: 837 , 2660 , 2663 (capital)

Grupos de la Gran Nicoya y ocupación del territorio. (Tous-Mata, M.)

- Mosquito

Spoiler: Mosquito

• Culture: Misumalpan
• Tech: Mesoamerican
• Goverment: Tribal Monarchy
• Religion: Mayan
• Provinces IDs: 2661 , 840 , 838 (capital)

Acerca de la relación genealógica de las lenguas y las lenguas Misumalpas. (Constenla-Umaña, A.)

* The whole way Native governments works need a review, but that could be later.

NATIVE CULTURES AT 1444 MAP

- LANGUAGE FAMILIES MAP

Spoiler: LANGUAGE FAMILIES MAP

- LATE COLONIAL CULTURE MAP

Spoiler: LATE COLONIAL CULTURE MAP

STATES

States names with number of provinces.
Mexico and Guerrero states are organized in the modern way for gameplay reasons, but a more historical option is to take the 2 Western Mexico´s provinces + the 3 western ones of Guerrero to make Mexico state, while the 3 eastern of Mexico + the eastern one of Guerrero make the Puebla state.

Sources:
Atlas ilustrado de los pueblos indios de la Nueva España,1800
http://www2.cmq.edu.mx/pinues/index.php/2-uncategorised/1-bienvenido-al-sitio
Historia General de España y America, volumen 13 (Suarez-Fernandez)

NOTE: Post in progress...

 

[BuchiTaton]

TRADE GOODS AT 1444

- TRADE GOODS AT 1820

Spoiler: Trade goods at 1820

TERRAIN (based in relief and elevation)

- TERRAIN (based in vegetation)

Spoiler: Terrain by vegetation

- TERRAIN (based in stimulus to recreate historical development)

Spoiler: Terrain by development

DEVELOPMENT

Antigua Historia de México. (Melgarejo, J. L.)
Consideraciones sobre la población de la Nueva España (1793-1810) según Humboldt y Navarro y Noriega (Lerner, V.)
América Latina en la transición demográfica, 1800-1980. (Pérez-Brignoli, H.)
The World Economy, a millenial perspective. (Maddison, A.)

Edit: Post in progress...

 

[neondt]

Very nice

 

[BuchiTaton]

Very nice

Thank you!

Today I wanna to release the update for 1.27 of my mod. So for now Im gonna add my suggestion for the historical flag of Xalisco.

The glyph for Xalisco in the Lienzo Tlaxcala, a crying eye over volcanic sand.

Another version of the glyph.

Now the background could be white, but some design in Royal Blue and Gold can add flavor, since the Coat of Arms and flag of modern Jalisco is based in the one of the city of Guadalajara (Jalisco), granted by the Emperor Charles V in 1539. The first place (of 4 where the city was) is next to the capital of the Xalisco kingdom (current Nayarit state, that all the time range of EU4 was part of the state of Jalisco).

Here the current Jalisco state coat of arms. That used to be the kingdom of Nueva Galicia.

NOTE: The city of Guadalajara was moved because the attacks of Corachol and Chichimec nations in the Mixton War, one of the biggest native rebelions of the Americas, ignored in the current state of the game.

 

[ChaosOnline]

This is really impressive! I can tell you put a lot of research and effort into this! I'd love to see the Americas get an expansion like this! Thanks for sharing this!

 

[BuchiTaton]

The funny part is that devs revealed a more ambitious overhaul of Mesomerica just a couple of weeks after this suggestion.

BUT, I still have the "More Detailed" version of this (the original and the one for the changes to be released with 1.28). So we can still get even more. Mixe-Zoque and Pipiles (Cuzcatlan) are for me the ones that missed the more.