Mesoamarica Universalis

[Ciçatrix]

We appreciate all the great ideas and if any is interested in participating thier very welcome ...

King of Minors, I would like to hear your opponion about new units for the different nations?

I had an idea yesterday making some new units for the mayans, incas, Aztecs and so and but keping the existing unit for the rebels insted.. what do think about that?

I have already started making a model for the Aztec unit so there will be a screenie soon but I'm rather a newbie at scriptning so.. could you perhaps help me?

New units, i like the idea, but i am not very good at graphics, there is a template unit somewhere in the eu2 folders.
EDIT: or maybe not, i couldn't find one.

 

[Ciçatrix]

We could also make new town graphics, as we probably will not be needing the chinese and muslim ones, a different town graphic for each nation maybe?
But i think that graphics should wait slightly until we get a map (how is that progresseing?) and some nations, i presume you could ask Birger to do some flags if you don't want to yourself.

 

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great Idea and don't worry about the graphics let me handle that

 

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Map

A bit slow but almost there

 

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Birger do you whant in? we could use some with your expertice in southern america since most of my knowledge is about Aztecs and the Mayans and most of the teams knowledge is centered around central america

 

[Ciçatrix]

Birger do you whant to in? we could use some whit your expertice in southern america since most of my knowledge is about Aztecs and the Mayans

I can do south if Birger hasn't got time.

 

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I can do south if Birger hasn't got time.

GREAT

 

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Unit scripting

King of Minors can you script for Units ?

 

[Ciçatrix]

King of Minors can you script for Units ?

Well, i haven't done it before, but it seems easy, if we just use the tags that already have custom units, and just replace these, then no scripting needs to be done.
EDIT: sorry for the slightly slow response, my computer nearly crashed.

 

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Well, i haven't done it before, but it seems easy, if we just use the tags that already have custom units, and just replace these, then no scripting needs to be done.
EDIT: sorry for the slightly slow response, my computer nearly crashed.

okay mate could you make a concept map for South America?

 

[Ciçatrix]

okay mate could you make a concept map for South America?

I will try, how many provinces shall i use, and do you want PTI in the amazon rainforest?

 

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I will try, how many provinces shall i use, and do you want PTI in the amazon rainforest?

Whatever you think would be cool you could then post a screenie for us to discuss

 

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Music

Just an Idea.. shoudn't we change the music? I don't think 1400-1600 century vestern music is that great for a Indian culture.. do you?

 

[Ciçatrix]

Just an Idea.. shoudn't we change the music? I don't think 1400-1600 century vestern music is that great for a Indian culture.. do you?

Changing music is a nice idea, but copyright needs to be taken into account.

Whatever you think would be cool you could then post a screenie for us to discuss

I will start making a map, but not sure how long time it will take.

 

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Concept for Middle America

Finally its here!!! this is how the map, for the middle part, is gonna look like in our mod like to hear what you guess think

The culture, population size and population growth of the provinces:

Provinces with Tarascantec culture:
Tarascan (65.000 : 7%) Guerrero (35.000 : 7%) Curitzeo (29.000 : 7%)

Provinces with Chichicmec culture:
Michogan (18.000 : 7%) Chichimeca (21.000 : 7%) Chihuahua (12.000 : 5%)
Moctezuma (11.000 : 5%) Tijuana (10.800 : 5%)

Provinces with Mayan culture:
Chichen Itza (75.000 : 7%) Tulum (17.500 : 5%) Becán (21.000 : 5%) Chetumal (18.500 : 5%)
Uxmal (50.000 : 5%) Izamal (19.000 : 5%) Tikal (37.000 : 5%) Copan (43.000 : 5%)
Usumacinta (22.000 : 6%) Peten (22.500 : 6%) Chiapas (27.000 : 7%) Izapan (25.000 : 7%)
Guatemala (26.800 : 7%) Atitlan (5.000) Honduras (5.000)

Provinces with Totanac culture:
El Tajin (55.500 : 7%) Zempoala (48.500 : 7%) Tres Zapotes (42.700 : 7%)

Provinces with Zapotec culture:
Olmeca (39.000 : 6%) Tabasco (51.900 : 6%) Zapoteca (67.000 : 7%) Coatzacoalcos (62.000 : 7%)

Provinces with Mixtec culture:
Paparoapan (63.000 : 7%) Mixteca (59.700 : 7%) Oaxaca (72.000 : 7%)

Provinces with Nahual culture:
Tlaxcala (80.000 : 7%) Azcapotzalco (85.700 : 7%) Tlatelolco (100.000 : 7%)
Tetzcoco (120.700 : 7%) Pachuga ( 65.000 : 7%) Tepexpan (60.500 : 7%) Nahua (62.700 : 7%)
Chalcatzingo (85.700 : 7%) Xochicalco (59.700 : 7%) Tenochtitlán (25.000 15%)
Tolteca (45.000 : 9%) Hidalgo (37.000 : 9%)

 

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Unit graphics

Aztec or Mayan culture:

Zapotec Culture:

Spanish culture:

:rofl: :rofl:

What do you think King of Minors?

 

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Menu

I'm allmost finished making the menu in 1 or two days :rofl:

 

[Ciçatrix]

Lovely map, now i can start work on my bit, as i have seen how you have made it.
Just one thing: How are you going to modify population increase? AFAIK the only things that affect population increase are: Location(only applicable for cities under 5000 population.), Mayor (+1%), Stablilty (from +1% to +7%), Centres of Trade (+5%) and manufactories (+1%)

Where have i seen those units before?

 

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Lovely map, now i can start work on my bit, as i have seen how you have made it.
Just one thing: How are you going to modify population increase? AFAIK the only things that affect population increase are: Location(only applicable for cities under 5000 population.), Mayor (+1%), Stablilty (from +1% to +7%), Centres of Trade (+5%) and manufactories (+1%)

Where have i seen those units before?

We, or my better half , has come up with some starting stats for some of the factions... thought you might wanna look at them

Starting attributes and stats for the Fractions:

Aztec
Culture: Nahual
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 2
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 0
Infrastructure-technology:0

Domestic Policies:
75% Plutocracy
100% Decentralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Free Trade
75% Defensive Doctrine
100% Land
50% Quality
100% Free Subjects

Diplomacy:
Aztec is a vassal of Tepanec
Aztec has an alliance with Tepanec
Aztec has a trade agreement with Tepanec
Aztec grants Tepanec military access
Tepanec grants Aztec military access
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichicmec
100 relations with Tepanec
-100 relations with Chichicmec
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
6.000 infantry in Tenochtitlán

Tepanec
Culture: Nahual
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: -1 (plus 4 chance of rebellion in Tetzcoco plus 2 of rebellion in Tlatelolco)
Land-technology: 1
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 2
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
75% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
50% Quality
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Aztec is a vassal
Tepanec has an alliance with Aztec
Tepanec has a trade agreement with Aztec
Tepanec grants Aztec military access
Aztec grants Tepanec military access
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichicmec
100 relations with Aztec
-100 relations with Chichicmec
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
10.000 infantry in Azcapotzalco, 15.000 infantry in Tetzcoco, 10.000 infantry in Pachuca and 10.000 infantry in Tlatelolco

Tlaxcaltec
Culture: Nahual
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 1
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 2
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
75% Narrow-minded
75% Mercantilism
75% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
100% Quality
75% Free Subjects

Diplomacy:
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichicmec
-100 relations with Chichicmec
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Tlaxcala

Chichicmec
Culture: Chichicmec
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: -1
Land-technology: 3
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 0
Infrastructure-technology: 0

Domestic Policies:
100% Plutocracy
100% Decentralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Free Trade
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
100% Quality
100 Free Subjects

Diplomacy:
Permanent Casus Belli against Tepanec, Aztec, Totonac, Tlaxcaltec and Tarascantec
-100 relations with Tepanec
-100 relations with Aztec
-100 relations with Tarascantec
-100 relations Totonac
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Tolteca and 15.000 infantry in Hidalgo

Tarascantec
Culture: Tarascantec
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 3
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 1
Infrastructure-technology: 1

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
50% Mercantilism
75% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
100% Quality
75% Free Subjects

Diplomacy:
-100 relations with Chichicmec
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Tarascan

Totonac
Culture: Totonac
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 1
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
75% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
50% Free Trade
75% Defensive Doctrine
100% Land
100% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichicmec
-100 relations with Chichicmec
0 relation with al other fractions

Military:
10.000 infantry in El Tajin

Zapotec
Culture: Zapotec
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 2
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
75% Narrow-minded
75% Mercantilism
50% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
20.000 infantry in Zapoteca

Mixtec
Culture: Mixtec
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 2
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
75% Narrow-minded
75% Mercantilism
50% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
10.000 infantry in Mixteca 15.000 infantry in Oaxaca

Uxmal
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 3
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Trade agreement with Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Uxmal

Chichen Itza
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 2
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 3
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
75% Narrow-minded
100% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
100% Quality
75% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Permanent Casus Belli against Uxmal, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
Trade agreement with Uxmal, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
35.000 infantry in Chichen Itza

Tikal
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 3
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Trade agreement with Chichen Itza, Uxmal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichen Itza, Uxmal, Copan, Huastec and Quiche
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
12.000 infantry in Tikal

Copan
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 3
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Trade agreement with Chichen Itza, Tikal, Uxmal, Huastec and Quiche
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichen Itza, Tikal, Uxmal, Huastec and Quiche
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Copan

Huastec
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 1
Naval-technology: 1
Trade-technology: 3
Infrastructure-technology: 1

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
100% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
100% Mercantilism
100% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
50% Quality
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Trade agreement with Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Uxmal and Quiche
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Uxmal and Quiche
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
15.000 infantry in Peten


Quiche
Culture: Maya
Religion: Polytheism
Stability: 3
Land-technology: 0
Naval-technology: 0
Trade-technology: 2
Infrastructure-technology: 2

Domestic Policies:
100% Aristocracy
50% Centralization
100% Narrow-minded
50% Mercantilism
50% Offensive Doctrine
100% Land
75% Quantity
100% Serfdom

Diplomacy:
Trade agreement with Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Uxmal
Permanent Casus Belli against Chichen Itza, Tikal, Copan, Huastec and Uxmal
0 relation with al fractions

Military:
20.000 infantry in Guatemala

I wonder... could I post some of the finished Units and Menus and so on so that you could try them out... my computer are currently in sickbay

 

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Crazy idea!!!

I just had a crazy idea why not animate some og the units you find pictured in Mayan and Aztec codexs?!!! what do you think???