Merging of Two Kingdoms

[MegaSonicGeo]

Instead putting this out as just a suggestion I'd like to make this more about how viable this is and how it could go wrong.

I've been thinking it would be pretty cool to Have an ability to merge two kingdoms. Half of each flag would be spliced together to form the new one. Dynasty could be chosen whenever an heir is born, each with benefits.(Eventually if one side is supported in succession it will be permanent)


The first thing that everyone would immediately say is this is extremely OP, so of course this would have to be very limited.
How it could be limited:
-Base tax must be under X. (To join the HRE its between 25 and 50 so maybe up to 60 or 70 for this)
-Must be same religion group
-Must have alliance for 50 years (Can be more if necessary)
-Must be same or accepted culture (I'm not too sure about this one as it's severely limiting.)
-Must have at least one province bordering each other
-Must have Royal Marriage (This would eliminate republics)
-Must have +190 relation
-Must NOT be vassalized
-Must NOT already be a Merged Kingdom
-Must NOT have fought in the last 60 years ( Can also be changed as necessary)

In times when rebellions would appear, rebels to break away may be common, if they succeed you return to the country you were prior to the merging.

So how realistic is this idea in terms of game balance?

 

[Incompetent]

You can already integrate one kingdom into another if there is a personal union and your country has seniority. It would be cool though if integration gave the option of creating a new name and flag for your united kingdom.

If the other kingdom is independent, with its own monarch, it makes no sense to force them to 'merge' with you (a de facto takeover).

 

[talilu]

I think this would be more interesting than PU integration. This would also grant the bigger country the integrated country's primary culture as an accepted culture, so this would be used to get rid of cultural problems. Also this would mean Austria-Hungary like unions can come true. But I think two countries should have very similar base tax or we might see somthing like Holy Empire of Franks and Ulmer...

 

[Trivium89]

I love this idea!

Paradox , listen to this guy! next Addon!

 

[AmbroStoics]

I think this would be more interesting than PU integration. This would also grant the bigger country the integrated country's primary culture as an accepted culture, so this would be used to get rid of cultural problems. Also this would mean Austria-Hungary like unions can come true. But I think two countries should have very similar base tax or we might see somthing like Holy Empire of Franks and Ulmer...

But Austria-Hungary only become a dual kingdom once the Habsburgs were sufficiently owerwhelmed by all their minorities and needed a "partner in crime" to keep the country going. And it only lasted for about 50 years well after the timescale of EUIV, so it shouldn't be a basis for anything with regards to EUIV.

Now having a system where PU integration would result in a new nation is something I would love to see, but in the long run it'd get messy with multiple PUs. Still, worth discussing.

 

[MisterDisaster]

This is interesting idea, which in some cases historically occurred (say Poland and Lithuania creating a Commonwealth) but because AI is essentialy a moron this would be too beneficial for the player.

 

[QWW]

Historically around the EUIV timeline there have been a few unions. You've got Poland-Lithuania, Switzerland, Central America, and technically Italian unification. So +1.

 

[Andrzej2]

Peacefull unions usually resulted in merging flags for example United Kingom and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. So possibility to merge flags in game, but only when we peacefully integrate personal union, would be nice.

 

[MegaSonicGeo]

Sorry I didn't reply guys, I thought I checked the option to get emailed when someone replied so I just thought my idea sucked. xD
As for MisterDisaster saying it would be too beneficial, any ideas on how to balance this idea? Maybe making the required years of alliance a bit greater would make it so people wouldn't immediately merge with someone.

 

[MisterDisaster]

Perhaps the requirement should be the same Rivals (and maybe the same Enemies), because basically that's why kingdoms are merging. Also the same religion and main culture of both kingdoms must be of the same group.

 

[MegaSonicGeo]

I did put the thing about culture requirement in the original post but I'm hesitant to say that because of how severely it limits who you can merge with.

 

[Prince de Conti]

+1 to the idea by the author - would make an Anglo-Franco nation of Henry V ambition a reality.