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For those of us without GG version what is the maintenance cost for the cheapest Mercs in the game now?
 

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Ok, so they were not doubled. 6 is fine in my opinion, but its the same as the demo.

It's easy to check in "common/defines.lua".

v1.02b: MERCENARY_MAINTENANCE_FACTOR = 2.5
Demo: MERCENARY_MAINTENANCE_FACTOR = 1.25
 

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It's easy to check in "common/defines.lua".

v1.02b: MERCENARY_MAINTENANCE_FACTOR = 2.5
Demo: MERCENARY_MAINTENANCE_FACTOR = 1.25

Ok. Well the maintanence is the same as in the demo.

Also I am finding I cant raise levys when I have already raised levys. Is this a bug? The ai can do it but I cant. I.e. I have raised my armies but now I need extra men I cant go back and raise the men it says are available after about 6 weeks of the war...
 

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I think they are fine.

maybe before we complain the mercs should be tested in a full playthrough. armies in the time were mostly made up of mercs anyways and the AI uses them as well.
 

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Ok. Well the maintanence is the same as in the demo.

It's possible that something else changed that offset the merc maintenance cost increase. I will look into it.

Also I am finding I cant raise levys when I have already raised levys. Is this a bug? The ai can do it but I cant. I.e. I have raised my armies but now I need extra men I cant go back and raise the men it says are available after about 6 weeks of the war...

No, it's not a bug, you need to disband your levy from the holding before you can raise it again. The AI can't do this either.
 

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It's possible that something else changed that offset the merc maintenance cost increase. I will look into it.



No, it's not a bug, you need to disband your levy from the holding before you can raise it again. The AI can't do this either.

Ok cool. Thanks. Thats a change from the demo too then I think.
 

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Nothing has changed with the merc, neither the hire nor the maintanence!
It is 1:1 as in the demo.

GG version 1.02b

One thing you can be 100% sure of is that 1.02b is the latest version of the game. So, no worries.
 

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Mercs are powerful in the early game, and then become less so as normal levy sizes increase.

Exactly, precisely why because I thought they were fine in the demo myself.

I think theres a gap in perception on merc power between 'vanilla' demo users and '666 mod' demo users who played for 100 years+. After 50 years of play I can RARELY be bothered to hire mercs. Once I can command dozens in thousands in levies, the only reason I'd want to is either because I'm losing badly, so its such a quickie war that I cant be bothered to gather and bundle my levies...