Can Paradox remove the requirement for AVX from the game? My processor is more powerful than the system requirements. But due to the fact that this is AMD, the game does not start
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[Megathread] Victoria 3 AVX
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which AMD cpu more powerful than FX 8370 and did not support AVX?
Don`t be shy, just tell us what kind of epic product you get, we are not interrogate，we just curious baby.
Don`t be shy, just tell us what kind of epic product you get, we are not interrogate，we just curious baby.
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Oh, you were happy with your CPU's performance were you? Well, AMD and the software CPU extensions think otherwise. The software will artificially prevent you from running Victoria until you buy the latest hardware! Go and spend $2000 on a new PC that you don't really need - NOW!!!
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Looks like the AVX guy has created another account after his last one got banned.
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Same problem here. My I7 990 extreme works better than some 2022 proc and runs Flight Simulator 2020 on ultra graphics settings but I can't play Vic 3 only because PDX has decided it would be impossible. AVX has already been removed from AAA games like CP 2077 without lowering quality at all.
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I have a Ryzen 7 3800X and can run V3 just fine. And the CPU is already a few years old. AMD processors released since 2015 support AVX2 according to WIkipedia.
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It's completely useless, you already removed it from CK 3, and many AAA games removed it too, what did you do it again ? My CPU does not support AVX but it's far from obsolete (I7 990x extreme) why should I change my setup because of a feature that will be partially abandonned in 2023 ? I play all the latest games on ultra graphic settings, and can't play Vic3 ? Oh my god...
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A >10 year old CPU is definitely not "far from obsolete", you shouldn't expect modern games to work without issue on hardware that is that out of date.
I do hope PDX makes a workaround so you can still play the game.
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I am sorry but a I7 990x extreme + 32 go+ rtx 3070 runs all the latest games on highest settings without any issue when Vic 3 is just a low tech game.
I hope for a workaround too, thank you.
I hope for a workaround too, thank you.
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Vic 3 is a CPU-intensive game, not a GPU-intensive game.
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Like many other games in my Steam library. The problem is not the game requirements, Vic 3 will run perfectly on my setup, AVX is just a matter of choice from PDX.
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It is.
Specifically, it is the same choice that the developers of Age of Empires 4 have made.
Uh. Would love to know about developpements. As ibdiscoverd yesterday than I cant run V3 for rhis reason. Admittedly I wanted to upgrade my cpy anyway (as its a few months the pc is running badly... 8 years old good boy).
And knowing it could help me with cpy choice
And knowing it could help me with cpy choice
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CP 2077 or Horizon have removed AVX. Those games work perfectly on my setup like Vic3 would. Pdx has decided to knowingly block some older setup for no good reason but decided to remove AVX from CK3. Vic 3 and Ck3 are using the same game engine, lol.
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I mean it's not like AVX doesn't do anything and Paradox just decided to troll people for no reason. It's a decision of optimizing performance on any PC from... roughly the last 10 to 12 years vs accomodating the relatively few devices still around from before then. There's plenty of games that won't run on a decade old PC.
That said, if there's a feasibly way to make it optional without impacting performance on the vast majority of PCs, I hope they do it. The more people can play the better.
That said, if there's a feasibly way to make it optional without impacting performance on the vast majority of PCs, I hope they do it. The more people can play the better.
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How many games currently use AVX ? Less than 20 I think and Intel will partially abandon it next year (AVX 512) for the 12th generation of proc... All that mess for nothing.
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CK3 on release didn't use AVX. AVX was not listed in the CK3 system requirements. Someone turned on AVX accidentally when doing the 1.6 builds. When this was discovered, they turned it off.
Vic3 on release uses AVX. AVX is listed in the Vic3 system requirements. Vic3 probably gets more benefit from AVX than CK3 did.
intel are dropping AVX-512 because their implementation of AVX-512 is a charlie foxtrot that actually ends up triggering thermal throttling in the CPU.
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99.99% of latest games work without AVX that was implemented many years ago. I'd really like to know why.
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Well, the jury is still out on that one. Seen plenty topics where people complained about too heavy gpu usage.
And this is mine on 1080p 60Hz Medium on a 6600XT. I don't really think this is what should be called normal.
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Based on these (imperfect) online benchmark comparisons (its the best I could find for such old hardware), Passmark, Userbenchmark. It seems like especially on single thread performance (usually quite relevant for PDX games) your CPU might be below recommended specs, so while your cpu might run the game if AVX wasn't an issue, saying it would run perfect is giving it a bit too much credit.
And as was already said, other games probably run decent for you because you have a respectable GPU, but strategy/simulation games generally hit the CPU a lot harder than the GPU and I really don't think you have the greatest time playing modern sim/strategy games (based on my own experience of switching from an I-7 4770 to a 12700k and noticing very clear tickrate improvements in CPU bound games like HOI4 and Rimworld).
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