[MEGATHREAD] Tick Lag/Stuttering Issues

[Elou2A]

I'm curious for those that have the stuttering issue, how many monitors do you have? I have 3. I'm just trying to think of anything that may affect it.

I can confirm, having multiples monitors or only one doesn't change anything to the stuttering issue...

 

[poguemahone87]

i7 6700K @ 4.0 GHz
EVGA GTX 1070 - Drivers: 430.39
16 GB RAM (DDR4)
Windows 10
Game is installed on a SSD

My frametime on different speeds while playing the tutorial:

Someone on Steam made this video:

^Not mine, but I have the same experience.

That video is the perfect example - thanks for sharing. It is exactly what I am getting too.

 

[AmrikCZ]

like everyone scuttering only unpause

I have
I7-4790k 4,7Ghz
16GB RAM
Gygabite GTX 970 G1 Gaming

 

[Quantum_AI]

That video is the perfect example - thanks for sharing. It is exactly what I am getting too.

Wow that's pretty bad! I am getting something similar but a LOOOOT less bad. I am pretty sure its a CPU bottleneck. I have a 1080TI and the CPU is a 4790k at 4.7 Ghz. I suspect single core performance is very important for this game.

 

[Toledo37]

Intel Core i7-4790K
Nvidia GTX 970
16 GB RAM
Windows 10 64-Bit
Installed on SSD (OS and game)
Playing without ironman.

 

[poguemahone87]

Wow that's pretty bad! I am getting something similar but a LOOOOT less bad. I am pretty sure its a CPU bottleneck. I have a 1080TI and the CPU is a 4790k at 4.7 Ghz. I suspect single core performance is very important for this game.

Yeah I expect so, although I would think the engine should be similar to EU4,which there was the Dev diary a few weeks back. They discussed multi-core efficiency of the game and said it does have it... I have a Ryzen 2700x, so yes lots and lots of cores, but even on single core I would be amazed if this game would cause such a slow down on such a CPU

 

[Quantum_AI]

multi-core efficiency of the game and said it does have it

I'd take that with a grain of salt. What Windows does now is something called thread hopping which makes the same thread jump from one core to another multiple times in a second. It reduces the temps but it also produces the illusion that multiple cores are being used because you'll see activity in all of them. However, at any given point in time, one core is still doing most of the work and is bottlenecking. Only a few small activities go to the other cores on independent threads which barely impact performance.

But none of the youtubers were having issues even though some of their specs are weaker than that of people here. Which makes me believe something else also changed for our release version.

 

[Pasadena1988]

That video is the perfect example - thanks for sharing. It is exactly what I am getting too.

The video also suits my problems.

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

Thread upgraded to Megathread.

 

[Krolmn]

Stuttering.

250~300 fps paused. 5~6 fps unpaused at speed 5. Stuttering even at speed 1 with 180 fps.

Specs:
CPU - FX 8350 4.0 Ghz
GPU - RX 580 8Gb.
Ram - 16 gb.
Running on SSD - 480GB.
Windows 7 64x.

Repair or I'll refund. Thank you.

 

[Daxxom]

Same issue as everyone above stated, huge fps variable whiplash-like stuttering. Stuttering does not occur when Paused.

Specs:
GPU: GeForce GTX 1080
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700k @ 4.00Hz
RAM: 32 GB Kingston DDR4
SSD: SanDisk SD8SN8U-1T00-1122 1TB M.2 2280
OS Windows 10 64x

This is really unfortunate, for you PDX and everyone that's having this issue. Hope it can be resolved ASAP.

 

[Nostromo84]

STUTTERING WHEN UNPAUSED, GAME RUNS SMOOTHLY WHEN PAUSED.
CPU - I7 980X
GPU - NVIDIA GTX 770
RAM - 12 GB
WIN 10
NOT PLAYING IRONMAN

 

[ow592]

GPU: Radeon 7790
CPU: i3 4150 (2x3,5GHz)
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
Installed on an old HD
Windows 10 64 Bit
Ironman on. Savegames on the HD (no cloud)

The game runs ok. But it stutters when I do not pause and scroll through the map, but I only did this to check if I have the same issues. I only play SP and I always pause in paradox games to do things.

 

[Peder P]

Wow that's pretty bad! I am getting something similar but a LOOOOT less bad. I am pretty sure its a CPU bottleneck. I have a 1080TI and the CPU is a 4790k at 4.7 Ghz. I suspect single core performance is very important for this game.

I am running on a 9900k and I am not seeing significant system load during stuttering, neither on CPU, GPU, memory, disk or network. I am pretty sure this is a software issue - which is fair enough - keeping a massive simulation running in real-time is a decent engineering challenge. Having less performance headroom probably makes the bug more apparent and annoying, but the stuttering seems to be present even when no part of the hardware is utilized fully.

If I was a betting man, I would put ½ my money on a virtual machine/scripting sandbox bottlenecking everything due to garbage collection, and the other ½ on some part of the update cycle doing unnecessary locking of shared resources. Perhaps taking out a wee bit to put on some kind of cross-thread dispatch/invocation issue.

 

[Ghosk]

I only get the issue after years into the game.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti
Intel Core i7-3770 @3.40GHz

 

[DJStreetLove]

Stuttering for me both in the tutorial and an Ironman game.

it 4670k
GTX 980
8 GB ram
Installed on SSD

 

[BensiB]

Stuttering issues, but mostly on speed 5. FPS is typically ~144, but zooming in and out reduces it, and having it at speed 5 reduces the framerate to ~15-25 and introduces massive stuttering.

GTX 1080 Founders
Intel I5-6600K @4.4 GHz
16 GB DDR4
Windows 10 64 Bit (on SSD)
I:R installed on SSD

Ironman: Yes

 

[gekj]

Anyone know how to cap fps ig ? Looks like reducing fps makes shuttering less anoying.

Got a 144hz gsync monitor so the game never runs under 144....

And don't want rivatuner

 

[Quantum_AI]

I am running on a 9900k and I am not seeing significant system load during stuttering, neither on CPU,

No core maxed out after checking for thread hopping? I very much doubt that. Are you suign Windows or Afterburner etc to check? because they average it out over the polling frequency and it seems there is even distribution but actually the thread is just bouncing around.

I used Process Explorer to test some games last year and even though windows was showing even distribution across cores, it was fake. It was due to thread bouncing.

 

[mods789]

Same problem with stuttering

RTX 2070
Ryzen 5 2600X @4.2 GHz
16 go ram
Windows 10 64 bits
Imperator and Windows are installed on SSD
Ironman on