That should have been Emperor.
The game is too bloated, it's time to rip off like half the features of the game, only keep what works, and start fresh from that.
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[Megathread] Leviathan Release Problems
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The game is too bloated, it's time to rip off like half the features of the game, only keep what works, and start fresh from that.
Funilly, Imperator is now quite a good game. Probably one of the most polished PDX games at the moment...
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My saves are still crashing :// still literally unplayable
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Yeah, I recently went back to Vicky with HPM (over my old standby, PDM) and...man, it's been so good. And it's not just nostalgia, it's genuinely an awesome game (at least with some mods to improve it)
This is actually true, I:R still needs a lot of work but it's pretty good on the whole right now. Honestly I thought PDX was on the upswing after the good launch of CKIII and the successful revamping of I:R, but, to quote Brak: "Guess not!"
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I agree. I just want EUIV to work.
I almost gave up on Paradox with Imperator, but the work on it since release drew me back. CKIII and the New Stellaris DLC and Patch are promising and I will play not as much as I used to but I am willing to play all three.
EU is my first love since the first iteration.....and it is sad to see it in such a state....but I just can't support them with my wallet anymore.
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Taking Kongo as Austria-Hungary was such a joy. And later taking Egypt without a fight according to the conference agreement
Also, being unable to conquer the entire world, that was so refreshing. Vicky gets that 19th century feels. You feel like you are playing a historical state and not a meme.
Ah, Vicky, when PDX was at its height. 2 DLCs, and that s all. Ok, one more DLC would be helpful to polish the remaining things, like adding serfs and more decisions/events. But hey, HPM did that.
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I'd be fine with that (assuming flavour also means more unique units models)
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I hope this is the last DLC. Lets get one big free patch at the end of the year that is Bugfixing and Gamebalancing and call it a day for EUIV.
Throw a few content and unit packs in for people to buy that want that stuff.
That would be the best way for Paradox Interactive to get a PR win after yesterday's debacle.
Throw a few content and unit packs in for people to buy that want that stuff.
That would be the best way for Paradox Interactive to get a PR win after yesterday's debacle.
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Yes, this. Vicky is the only PDX game that tries to be more than a map-painter and lets you actually succeed if you don't want to paint the map.
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Victoria 3 designed by Johan:
Introducing the 4 types of points:
Industrial (for building and upgrading factories and railroads)
Diplomatic (for sphering countries and such)
Military (recruitment, generals, etc)
Government (increase/decrease taxation and tariffs, pass laws).
Scramble for Africa, Boxer Rebellion, American civil war and world wars are gone, part of later DLCs.
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Leviathan has just broke new records and is now the worst rated product on steam. More dlc's is what is planned but I think they should just stop 
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exactly. And you get rewarded for that. As the point is not to take over the world. That s so passé. The point is to become the most powerful great power, by actually paying attention to the world around you, to think in advance, and to think like the 19th-century monarch would think (or government)
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And that s why it hurts so much. Vicky 2 was designed by Johan (!)
So what happened. How he got manna obsessed? As with Vicky 2, he did all the right stuff. And now... everything is wrong.
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Like the below quote said I should have been Emperor.
I agree this seems like a late cycle cashgrab ala EA to me.....
and there was a time, along time ago now, when Paradox did everything to not be EA.....
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At least government reform progress has 'month' spelled properly now.
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Dunno if even this comparison is apt.
I play The Sims 4 and end up getting a lot of the expansions that are released, and for as "greedy" as EA can be with their pricing, and having a complete monopoly on that genre, at least the stuff they release always work. And there is genuinely quite a bit of work that can be easily seem on each of these expansions (except for the Star Wars one, that thing was the clearest example of a promotional cash grab that I've ever seem in my life). They also put out monthly updates for bug fixes instead of letting bugs accumulate. Their model also ensures that expansions are completely optional - the expansions that I choose not to pick don't interfere with my game at all, unlike for PDS games.
Heck, even EA's reaction after the major flak they got with Star Wars Battlefront II was something that I could never imagine PDS doing (EA actually put their money where their mouth is and truly reworked the entire game monetary model to have no microtransactions at all, plus patched the game up to a state where it became a frankly pretty fun game, and further released more free content for it).
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They are just throwing a lot of mechanics into the game without balance, in 2 years there will be so much mechanics with so much modifier, that the goal of the game will be just to get as many buffs as possible, and of course AI will not be able to handle with that, they can no longer use the system of favors right, imagine 2 years from now.
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on one hand, eu5 would be nice. but on the other, its going to suck for a long time. like imperator rome and ck3
Without casting any aspersions (because they are neither warranted nor helpful), it seems pretty clear to me that the code base was locked for release weeks ago and that they have been working hard for the past few weeks to finish up / fix any bugs. They probably felt the release build was stable enough for release, but quickly accelerated the timeline for the first hotfix when the community disagreed.
Should the release have been delayed? In retrospect, maybe, but I assume that is what Johan was referring to in the changes to the production process in the since deleted post from this morning (assuming it was real, I didn’t see the original post and only saw a post with the supposed text).
I do think people are underestimating the impact that on-boarding a new team and ramping up production during a global pandemic had on development this year, and we should really be giving the developers some more slack. Johan was very honest in his last dev diary about these issues and the direction of EU4 moving forward, and I for one appreciate his stated approach. EU5 will come eventually, but I look forward to the continued support of EU4 for the time being.
Thanks for the hard work, Paradox Tinto!
Should the release have been delayed? In retrospect, maybe, but I assume that is what Johan was referring to in the changes to the production process in the since deleted post from this morning (assuming it was real, I didn’t see the original post and only saw a post with the supposed text).
I do think people are underestimating the impact that on-boarding a new team and ramping up production during a global pandemic had on development this year, and we should really be giving the developers some more slack. Johan was very honest in his last dev diary about these issues and the direction of EU4 moving forward, and I for one appreciate his stated approach. EU5 will come eventually, but I look forward to the continued support of EU4 for the time being.
Thanks for the hard work, Paradox Tinto!
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