They should have sold it as a Pirates of the Caribbean content pack, and took the time to rework Naval mechanics. Would have made more sense and would not have created so much player angst regarding Iberia.
[Megathread] Golden Century - is this it?
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Move to EU5 will mean shit if the same development philosophies remain. If you want to solve the most common problems, the following need to be done:
1. Gap between the DLC releases needs to widen. You can't develop a good feature if you have too little time
2. Design Philosophies need to change, most notably what EU is. Abandon the whole "EU4 must be primarily an MP game", and don't make it a Virtual Board Game with goal of conquering the world. Make it a simulation like what all the other PDS games are
3. Stop being stubborn with not including some things that really should be there, like detailed internal politics and characters. Nobody needs the CK2 system, but people and internal factions defined states in ALL periods of history
And a few more things.
1. Gap between the DLC releases needs to widen. You can't develop a good feature if you have too little time
2. Design Philosophies need to change, most notably what EU is. Abandon the whole "EU4 must be primarily an MP game", and don't make it a Virtual Board Game with goal of conquering the world. Make it a simulation like what all the other PDS games are
3. Stop being stubborn with not including some things that really should be there, like detailed internal politics and characters. Nobody needs the CK2 system, but people and internal factions defined states in ALL periods of history
And a few more things.
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I don't see that happening. EU being a multiplayer thing has been at the core of the franchise's motivations since the very beginning.
I should also add that Vicky 2 - still the most simulationist of Paradox's titles - is wildly easier to be a rabid militarist in than it really ought to be.
It has been a while since I agreed with you, but I agree with this point wholeheartedly.
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It just feels like so long since an expansion mattered or changed the game in a meaningful way.
Rule Britannia is my favourite example of worst DLC. There were 12 dev diaries! The only proper feature it has introduced is Naval Doctrines, which, from gameplay perspective is a mediocre. It's introduced Anglicanism which ended up being a hindrance. It's introduced the latent resource mechanic, which is nice, but introduced only one latent resource, which is pitiful. Innovativeness and Knowledge sharing are so microscopic it's embarrassing that they are listed as the main features. The best feature BY FAR that was part of the related patch is country names stretching over sea zones. That's 12 DDs.
I do like the new ship models, I hope we do get more for other nations in the future. Its something I prefer over the army models in all honesty.
Still cannot believe there won't be a rework for the Iberian Wedding and Dutch Rebellion...
You are paying for the same features as Poland patch. Because half is free and you pay for quests, and expulsion.
Even the Poland patch showed more events.
Even the Poland patch showed more events.
What do you consider the very beginning? EU3? Not even EU4's beginning. I mean, they did a lot to improve it, but they didnt switch focus and balance from SP to MP until quite recently. 4-5 DLCs ago, it started, I'd say.
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I think Golden Century was a make it or break it DLC for me, so yeah, I really want EUIV to end now.
I've been disappointed in the way EU4 DLCs have been moving for the past few years and from the look of things, and the Iberian flavor pack continues that trend. I understand that these flavor packs are not to be seen as major ones on the scale of Art of War but how do they fit in the dev's vision for the game?
These questions are intended for the devs, but they are also for the fans in general; they are not about how things currently are but how they could be. I'm aware that many of the specifics have been addressed in the link at the bottom of this post, but they tend to focus on the symptoms of what appears to be a lack of vision on part of the devs. I fear that the game is in zombie mode and the devs are making content more out of an obligation and less out of any passion or interest. I want to believe otherwise, but all the evidence seems to be pointing towards complacency.
In short: What is your vision for EU4 and how do these recent DLCs fit into it? More to the point, if you could make your "dream" EU4, what would it look and what would the ideal experience feel like and does the current trend of DLCs and patches move in that direction? Why or why not?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-taking-please-dare-something-again.1130378/
These questions are intended for the devs, but they are also for the fans in general; they are not about how things currently are but how they could be. I'm aware that many of the specifics have been addressed in the link at the bottom of this post, but they tend to focus on the symptoms of what appears to be a lack of vision on part of the devs. I fear that the game is in zombie mode and the devs are making content more out of an obligation and less out of any passion or interest. I want to believe otherwise, but all the evidence seems to be pointing towards complacency.
In short: What is your vision for EU4 and how do these recent DLCs fit into it? More to the point, if you could make your "dream" EU4, what would it look and what would the ideal experience feel like and does the current trend of DLCs and patches move in that direction? Why or why not?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-taking-please-dare-something-again.1130378/
You know what also a big problem is regarding EU IV, it's toxic community.
Why are people complaining more and more every time they get to see another DLC which they do not like and prefer something more in there own interest? If you are so obsessed with Italy, the HRE or 'reworking core mechanics' well first and foremost have patience and second go write down a fully constructed suggestion which YOU would like to see in game and don't expect the devs to come up with 100% favorable mechanics.
I do this every time when something pops into my mind and well, I got to see many DLC's coming up which I highly appreciate and I'm sure it had something to do with my effort to write down suggestions on the suggestion forum. And no, I'm not talking about *title suggestion* *Paradox make this better or create something like this* NO, give Paradox the exact lay out where to build from and then you might expect something in return in the future.
I'm sick and tired of this childish behavior, act as decent community member. Many of you complain how Paradox lost it's backbones but some of this community are the exact reason why Paradox is losing it's backbones, you should help them by giving idea's rather then complaining about your personal nonsense.
Why are people complaining more and more every time they get to see another DLC which they do not like and prefer something more in there own interest? If you are so obsessed with Italy, the HRE or 'reworking core mechanics' well first and foremost have patience and second go write down a fully constructed suggestion which YOU would like to see in game and don't expect the devs to come up with 100% favorable mechanics.
I do this every time when something pops into my mind and well, I got to see many DLC's coming up which I highly appreciate and I'm sure it had something to do with my effort to write down suggestions on the suggestion forum. And no, I'm not talking about *title suggestion* *Paradox make this better or create something like this* NO, give Paradox the exact lay out where to build from and then you might expect something in return in the future.
I'm sick and tired of this childish behavior, act as decent community member. Many of you complain how Paradox lost it's backbones but some of this community are the exact reason why Paradox is losing it's backbones, you should help them by giving idea's rather then complaining about your personal nonsense.
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You really liked those early expansions, because EUIV was a massive pile of garbage at release. It had a hook that was good enough for all of us. But it was a terrible game with terrible BS limitations. Limitations that were so incredibly dumb and restricted game play in so many ways that you all are colored by nostalgia about the fixing of those things. Upset that the problems of today aren't so easily fixable, so we have content instead of making what was a terrible game not terrible.
Because condescending posts about people who are genuinely concerned about the direction development is going in, written in gigantic yellow font, isn't toxic at all.
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There is a difference between being 'genuinely concerned' and joining a complainant movement because well, everyone else is complaining as well. Quoting my post like that and acting like a smart guy doesn't make you a percent smarter. But go along man, it's your party.
Actually, according to statements made by PDS at PDXcon, they don't actually want a fully constructed suggestion. They prefer to get directions/ideas as they want to have the creative freedom to give it their own spin. According to them, a lack of ideas is never the problem. I've seen plenty of fleshed out ideas around here that were viable but weren't taken.
You also want to make a distinction between a toxic community and a community that thinks along. PDS agrees this community is great most of the times, despite outlier posts. No company or game has improved by filing well intended criticism under "hate" or "toxic behaviour". You don't do anyone a favor by defending anyone's bad choices.
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I didn't know about those statements and I get your point as you got mine. It's just irritating to see people jumping easily on hate trains while they maybe put in like 500-2500 hours into the game. A lack of general appreciation is lacking from community members in my opinion and they treat Paradox like garbage but well as you said, I don't do anyone a favor by defending Paradox in this dire situation anyway.
I appreciate the fact that you can respond with common sense.