Megathread: Ahistorical Nations

[RedRalphWiggum]

King has said there will be some ahistorical nations, but he has no idea. this is the thread to suggest them.

Please though, nothing ridiculous. No 'United Republic of China and Argentina'. They have to be plausible, please specify which countries you think should be eligible, and, if possible, give some background on why you think this ahistorical nation should be a possibility.

I would like to suggest some sort of Balkan Federation. Some background available here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Communist_Federation OK, so it didnt happen but it could have done.

Grand Columbia, inc Columbia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama.

A United Arab entity of some sort. Probably should be confined to the Arabian peninsula, but maybe extending to Iraq and Syria.

Scandinavia (self explanatory).

A North Slavic entity, encompassing Poland, Czechia, Slovakia?

 

[h.r.e.]

alsace and lorraine , maybe some of the american states also could get independent like california or florida

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Vicky 1 had quite a respectable roster of states that didnt make it IRL, IIRC. Id be wuite content with having those back plus the suggestions that will appear in this thread.

Wales wasnt in vicky 1 IIRC, I suppose it would be cool for that possibility, being a Brit.

 

[Parsley Magnet]

The UK won't always be as successful over the course of a game as it was in real life. India could revolt if the UK is especially oppressive and is in dire enough straits. In addition to a united India, the subcontinent could be divided by religious boundaries.

 

[Tommy4ever]

The UK won't always be as successful over the course of a game as it was in real life. India could revolt if the UK is especially oppressive and is in dire enough straits. In addition to a united India, the subcontinent could be divided by religious boundaries.

In Vicky 1 it was possibly for Indian minors to form the Mughal Empire

I feel Vicky 1 had plenty possiible nations and there doesn't need to be many more.

@RedRalphWiggum: Scandanaviaformed through event in Vicky 1 aswell (and did so quite commonly even with the AI)

 

[Nethros]

Bourbon? Return of the French Monarchy?

The UK won't always be as successful over the course of a game as it was in real life. India could revolt if the UK is especially oppressive and is in dire enough straits. In addition to a united India, the subcontinent could be divided by religious boundaries.

i c wat u did thar

And yes, I agree about the religious aspect of a divided India.

 

[Gorgo Primus]

How about all the countries from EU3, like Brittenay?

 

[Red_Communist]

A Quebec Republic would be cool.

But hopefully that never happens in RL, only in Vicky 2.

 

[Andrelvis]

I would like to see at least all of the ahistorical nations that existed in V1.

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

How about all the countries from EU3, like Brittenay?

No way you could (or would want to) have all of them. Lets be honest, having Burgundy, Styria, Golden Horde or Jaylarids in Vicky2 would be ridiculous.

 

[Cinéad IV]

Some sort of United South American revolter would be pretty good, if wildly ahistorical.

If there was a way to dynamically represent the relationship between colonies and colonisers, and the autonomy the colonies historically enjoyed, I would be truly over the moon.

 

[Shuriken]

Ezo Republic... although technically that is historical, it was just crushed soon after declaring independence.

 

[Cinéad IV]

Ezo is in VIP after a fashion, as the rump Tokugawa State at the end of the Boshin War.

 

[HMAS-Nameless]

Hindustan if Indian Hindus rebel or the British create a Indian Hindu entity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan

Also more nations and stuff is definately needed for Afghanistan for example the Durrani Empire?

 

[unmerged(91061)]

I think a fair bit will depend on whether or not federalism in any form will be modelled in the game. For instance, Egypt might willingly join some Arab Federation, but submit to an Absolute Monarch? No way.

My suggestions
Kurdistan.
United States of South America (Simon Bolivar tried. Perhaps forming Gran Columbia is a precondition to forming this)
Caribbean Union/Federation
Arab Federation
Iberia (Spain & Portugal)
Oceania (Australia & New Zealand + Other Pacific Isles, Papua New Guinea, Other Indonesian Islands)
Various Indonesian Islands like Borneo, Java, Bali.
A south east asian union? Burma, Thailand, Malaysia (- Sarawak & Sabah), Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia.)

 

[Gorgo Primus]

Berlin Commune and Paris Commune for some ahistory and history.

 

[jebmagruder]

A Transcaucasus federation or at least a Federation of North Caucasus Muslim states.

 

[HMAS-Nameless]

Some more ahistorical suggestions i have:

Australia:
United States of Australia*
Australian Republic (most likely created from rebels)

If the states dont unite:
Federal Republic of New South Wales
Federal Republic of Van Dieman's land**
Federal Republic of Victoria
Federal Republic of Queensland
Union of the Northern Territory (UNT)
Federal Republic of South Australia
Federal Republic of Western Australia


basically if the states never united at the time of Independance in the second part and act as different dominons which was quite a plausible occurance that could have happened.

*-The United States of Australia was actually considered but dropped due to the fact that Britain had a stiff oposal to the Americans at the time and that the United States of American and the United States of Australia would have the same abreviation (USA)

** Tasmania before its name was changed

 

[unmerged(24586)]

I think it's more important that you can FORM nations. Like in EU3.

 

[unmerged(62478)]

There are many nations that could be added and not only ahistorical:

-A buffer state on the Rhine (Could be Alsace Lorraine as already mentioned, but the French which wanted to enact the buffer state, wanted it on the right bank of the Rhine- so it could be named Rhineish state or something)
-USSR (It doesnt exist in victoria)- yes Russia gets the soviet flag if communist, but its still the good old rus.
-Durning the Russian civil war there were many factions in Russia which wanted to attain independance, which are not included in the game (Cossacks- Great Don Voisko, Crimea, Idel-Ural, Bashkortostan, Siberia, Kuban, Alash).
-SHS (State of slovens, croats and serbs) not to be confused with the kingdom of SHS (Kingdom of Serbs, croats and Slovens)
-Republic of Prekmurje (Did exist)
-Free State of Rijeka/Fiume
-Bosnia