Medium tanks in 1937

[sekelsenmat]

yeah, there was that guy who kept ranting for weeks on end, about this and other stuff. Can't remember his name but the weird thing was, they gave him everything he wanted. Haven't seen him since.

Maybe it was Delpheus, the guy who complained non-stop about France being too weak? https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...start-with-engineers-and-heavy-tanks.1345142/

Not that all his ideas were bad, but kind of unfair that they added engineers to France but didn't consider my long presented proposal of decreasing "exceeding combat width" penalty from 200% to 100%

 

[blue_yonder]

Maybe it was Delpheus, the guy who complained non-stop about .. [many things]

That's the chap! - thanks - it was bugging my senile brain..

 

[MR2]

That "Gefallener_Held" character?

Boy howdy... "Last seen Jul 13, 2020" Thank Gawd...

 

[DicRoNero]

The end result IMHO is far worse than the original. Now you have to steal techs from Butan, because if you steal from the UK you get punished as you will probably get some useless tech you don't want like Carrier Fighter 1936, while from Butan you always get a bonus you can apply on something you want.

A bonus of 10%? Not that it's worth the spy time as collaboration governments are far more lucrative.
If it's the full-fledged 300% you consistently steal off them, I'd very much like to know how you do it, i.e. what techs you've got before you start these ops.

 

[Zauberelefant]

A bonus of 10%? Not that it's worth the spy time as collaboration governments are far more lucrative.
If it's the full-fledged 300% you consistently steal off them, I'd very much like to know how you do it, i.e. what techs you've got before you start these ops.

I think it's enough to use 2x safecracker agents.

 

[sekelsenmat]

A bonus of 10%? Not that it's worth the spy time as collaboration governments are far more lucrative.
If it's the full-fledged 300% you consistently steal off them, I'd very much like to know how you do it, i.e. what techs you've got before you start these ops.

When stealing industrial stuff I always get 300% or even that + 2 ahead of time. I've never seen 10%.... I usually steal from majors like France, UK, Soviets, Germany. The bad result is getting fuel syntectics or rubber for free instead.

Stealing army stuff I aim on France as a minor to get light tank 1 or 2 bypassing great war tank entirely. Sometimes I got a bad 100% inf tech instead

I've never had a good result stealing air stuff so gave up on it.

 

[blahmaster6k]

The 10% is a bug, if it's fixed it will be even more broken. And actually, contrary to what @el nora has said, I've gotten the 10% bug even when I'm up to date on machine tools, industry, and construction, so it's not just that. The only times I've not gotten the bug is when I'm up to date on all eligible technology, including radar, computing, fire control, excavation, synthetics, and refining. But the true answer could be somewhere between the two, and more testing could figure it out.

 

[DicRoNero]

When stealing industrial stuff I always get 300% or even that + 2 ahead of time. I've never seen 10%.... I usually steal from majors like France, UK, Soviets, Germany. The bad result is getting fuel syntectics or rubber for free instead.

Stealing army stuff I aim on France as a minor to get light tank 1 or 2 bypassing great war tank entirely. Sometimes I got a bad 100% inf tech instead

I've never had a good result stealing air stuff so gave up on it.

Precisely me experience, word for word. Except that I research Synth for myself anyway and bad result is getting Refining tech, and from that point I have to be careful at further stealing off them lest I get 10%.

 

[Harin]

if it's fixed it will be even more broken

I laughed out loud.

Now the guys want to know what I am looking at when I should be doing something productive.