Hi i have a problem in my game where vassils fight each other in private wars and MEDIUM crown athority says they cant ands its cousing alot of problems as they keep getting to big.
Medium Crown Athority Law not working as intended
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Are they under a different set of Crown Laws? For example if, they are de Jure the vassals of France (autonomous vassals usually) they will be able to fight each other, as well as your own de jure vassals (i think, maybe not yours too, but definitely their counterparts).
Not a Tech Support issue so moved to main forum. If it turns out to be a bug, please post a full account in Bug Reports, thank you.
High Authority doesn't prevent outside inheritance in de iure kingdom for me, so maybe there's a general problem? I also had plots by counts against dukes result in open warfare with medium, not sure if they aren't special, though, as being plot-caused.
Some other causes of war that bypass crown authority are vassals trying to break off from the liege.
Again, are they within the de jure borders of the kingdom with high authority? If you rule several kingdoms, the crown authority of each affects its own de jure areas.
You don't even have to rule multiple kingdoms; you merely have to have vassals within the border of a de jure kingdom other than yours.
I've had this problem as well and it's within my own kingdom, Duchy of Novogrod and several others in the Kingdom of Rus. They're the result of plots.
Edit: so maybe that's working as intended... no idea.
How do you find out the Crown Laws of another realm when they ask you to vote? I am Ireland and hold Jerusalem and the Byzantines are making a proposal. I can't seem to find any way to se what the laws are. No matter where I click, I get the Royal Laws of Ireland. A ledger page with such info would not hurt, but there is not one.
The HRE establishes medium and eventually high authority, I form the kingdom of italy, I can attack german dukes and italian doges regardless. If you start as the lombardian or carinthian duke and marry matilda you can form italy upon your son's succession to the titles of both. The HRE can pass any law they like and you can keep rocking it. Probably because the HRE isn't dejure in Italy, so the same is likely true of Burgundy.
So I'd say medium authority isn't working as intended since I can subvert it by forming a kingdom along the edge of the empire.
So I'd say medium authority isn't working as intended since I can subvert it by forming a kingdom along the edge of the empire.
@Sir Garnet:
Click the "Laws" icon in the big blue row of icons. Then click on the COA that belong to the kingdom you want to see the laws for.
Click the "Laws" icon in the big blue row of icons. Then click on the COA that belong to the kingdom you want to see the laws for.
This is definitely a bug.
My English and Lithuanian vassals are fighting quite often. With Lithuania, it's somewhat understandable, as there are parts of them inside Germany and/or Poland, but the English is only in England, and they are fighting constantly. All of my Kingdoms have medium crown authority.
I'll post a but report the next time it happens.
Edit: Yup. Though this time it was in Wales, still my kingdom (yeah, I have a few), still medium crown authority, still vassals fighting each other.
Edit2: And now with pictures, because then I apparently have written more than a thousand words:
My English and Lithuanian vassals are fighting quite often. With Lithuania, it's somewhat understandable, as there are parts of them inside Germany and/or Poland, but the English is only in England, and they are fighting constantly. All of my Kingdoms have medium crown authority.
I'll post a but report the next time it happens.
Edit: Yup. Though this time it was in Wales, still my kingdom (yeah, I have a few), still medium crown authority, still vassals fighting each other.
Edit2: And now with pictures, because then I apparently have written more than a thousand words:
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confirmed, had this problem when I made Ireland medium crown authority. Two Irish vassals directly under me decided to have a go at each other anyway.
I think this is the issue. I generally rule multiple Kingdoms and saw several times Medium Authority vassals duking it out. (That I generally mind. They're so cute with their sweet little wars with 300 guys, awww...)
Initially I thought High Authority fixed it. But the real deal is probably that by the time I moved their kingdoms to high, I had moved other kingdoms where they also have assets to Medium...
And of course, only the person DoWing needs ONE holding in a Auto/Limited kingdom (de jure) to be able to DoW freely. Worse! If they have an holding outside your de facto borders which is in a kingdom thats de jure less than medium, then they can DoW in your Absolute authority kingdom. Sometimes its not obvious at all because they just have a barony in Italy or something.
Bottom line, its not working perfectly right. BUT if you keep all your kingdoms above medium and carefully monitor your vassals for holdings outside your realm, itll usually be pretty much OK.
Complicating the issue are kingdoms located partly or in full within Empires. Imperial laws take precedence over local Kingdoms but they dont seem to apply correctly when it comes to this. An Absolute Authority empire doesnt seem to apply correctly to King-level vassals. A King of Bohemia doesnt get to set his own laws because it says 'imperial law applies' but in practice, the laws that govern the king of Bohemia dont neccessarily match Imperial law. This can apply to other kingdoms in Byzantium, or if you mod HRE borders to include Italy and Burgundy as I have, to those as well.
In short, its glitchy and needs more testing. I'm giving feedback based on user experience but its not QA-level because I have focused more on workarounds than analysis of root causes. I do the latter 8 hours a day @ work, when it comes to my entertainment, I go for the cheap fix
In some cases, when the Player is King, and his AI vassal is Duke, in turn Duke's AI vassal is a Count.
Now when Duke revokes Count's fief, Count has an option to take up arms, this is not prohibited with any level of Crown Authority (note even Max(=Absolute) Authority).
This happened to me once and was confusing, perhaps some of you experienced the same issue. I am not saying "there is no bug" though...
Now when Duke revokes Count's fief, Count has an option to take up arms, this is not prohibited with any level of Crown Authority (note even Max(=Absolute) Authority).
This happened to me once and was confusing, perhaps some of you experienced the same issue. I am not saying "there is no bug" though...
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There is a bug.
See my picture above. It's two counts that have plottet to take one of the duchies away from the dual duke of Wales. None of them have any holdings outside Wales, and all the kingdoms under my character have medium crown authority.
That is not meant to happen. At least that is what I understand as "vassals fighting each other".
See my picture above. It's two counts that have plottet to take one of the duchies away from the dual duke of Wales. None of them have any holdings outside Wales, and all the kingdoms under my character have medium crown authority.
That is not meant to happen. At least that is what I understand as "vassals fighting each other".
It actually means "vassals cannot DECLARE WAR on each other". Plots are still permitted.
it is easy to see if it is a BUG or plot induced war. Just check WARS page in the Ledger...
