I already rewrote new elections in for the USA with Ron Paul getting the chance to get the Republican nomination in 2008 and 2012 and Rand could also get it in 2016.
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I suggest that we could make two scenatios, one starts at 2003 and another starts at 2007. The 2003 'classic' scenario should be the continuation/extension of the original MDS storyline, while the 2007 one would be more close to the real world.
As for events like Arab Spring, Euro Crisis or the 2012 Senkaku conflict, I believe they could still happen in the 2003 scenario given the right circumstances, like if no world war happens in 2008.
Russia should be CSTO alliance. Iran is simply too weak to lead a bloc on it's own.
I have a question: Why do we want to move the date to 2007 or something? I say keep it in 2003.
I think moving it to 2008 would be the best choice. In order to coincide with the 2008 Presidential Election.
Thats an interesting idea, maybe if we do an Arab Spring sort of event chain that could be a possible result for it.
Just so you know, the ACW in my ideas is not necessarily a three-way conflict. This is because, depending who you ask, Progressives' views of Ron Paul is not necessarily negative, they tend to agree with his isolationist views and some of his views of US citizen rights, just not his social and economic views, which appeal to conservatives. This is evident because we have leftists like Kunkrich or Nader claiming to support, or respect Paul from the left. So.....
....assuming you implement an American Civil War and use my ideas, there is a possibility of, after the fall of the Federal Command, for the SSA and the FSA to unite peacefully and settle things with an election. However it depends on who is HoS of both groups. If we have a radical far left Communist/Socialist or a far right Ultraconservative leading these groups it would result in permanent US split or the continuation of the war until "there can only be one". However, if both factions are led by cooler heads, there is possibility of peaceful reunification. However, to spice things up, there will be a higher AI chance of a Communist faction leading the Socialist States over a moderate Progressive faction so chance of war dragging on is higher.
As for Iran, I still don't think that would be a major alliance, probably an EU-style secondary one, but not one of the big ones.
Also for many of US controversial actions, unless there is good justification to do so, do not give democratic/authoritarian slider +1/-1 to it. It's simply too controversial and some people might get pissed and complain about the mod. Make it more open vs closed society and raise dissident, international relations decrease and belligerence if the US player goes along with them.
Also speaking of controversy, how should the recent "Movie Protests" be handled without offending anybody?
....assuming you implement an American Civil War and use my ideas, there is a possibility of, after the fall of the Federal Command, for the SSA and the FSA to unite peacefully and settle things with an election. However it depends on who is HoS of both groups. If we have a radical far left Communist/Socialist or a far right Ultraconservative leading these groups it would result in permanent US split or the continuation of the war until "there can only be one". However, if both factions are led by cooler heads, there is possibility of peaceful reunification. However, to spice things up, there will be a higher AI chance of a Communist faction leading the Socialist States over a moderate Progressive faction so chance of war dragging on is higher.
As for Iran, I still don't think that would be a major alliance, probably an EU-style secondary one, but not one of the big ones.
Also for many of US controversial actions, unless there is good justification to do so, do not give democratic/authoritarian slider +1/-1 to it. It's simply too controversial and some people might get pissed and complain about the mod. Make it more open vs closed society and raise dissident, international relations decrease and belligerence if the US player goes along with them.
Also speaking of controversy, how should the recent "Movie Protests" be handled without offending anybody?
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This. The 2003 will be kept no matter what, but for modern events we'd rather have a second scenario (nota bene: I'm not speaking in the name of the team), since the existing one is too alt-history. One of the things that would be needed for it though is fresh minister files, so if you contribute in the dedicated thread, we can get closer to it.
I think the idea of starting a github for MDS2 is a great idea. I was going to start it yesterday, but with Wilksjohnson coming back today, I thought I would do him the courtesy of having him start it. It is FREE to do.
THEN, for minister files.... you see the problem I had (overall) was this... I have multiple files coming at me from all directions, some for the same country say like Romania... Imperator1993 contributed a whole file and pics. I put them in... now CocoBZ says they are wrong...
You see, if we did start a github, the file would be open and accessible to all, and you guys could change it and when happy, it would only then be posted.
Otherwise, the "manager" of the mod, just does his best...
EDIT: I'm not getting at you CocoBZ, I'm just using this as an example.
THEN, for minister files.... you see the problem I had (overall) was this... I have multiple files coming at me from all directions, some for the same country say like Romania... Imperator1993 contributed a whole file and pics. I put them in... now CocoBZ says they are wrong...
You see, if we did start a github, the file would be open and accessible to all, and you guys could change it and when happy, it would only then be posted.
Otherwise, the "manager" of the mod, just does his best...
EDIT: I'm not getting at you CocoBZ, I'm just using this as an example.
Nononono, wait, you understood me wrong. What I said here was only that the minister files are obsolete. What I said in the other thread was only related to the Romanian file, the others are all fine.
Well, I've already mentioned it might be best if there was a total switch over to Brigades rather than having both Divisions and Brigades; that would take quite a bit of work, but it would certainly help smaller nations be capable of defending themselves.
Also work towards converting some areas in the current map, to the way they were in the final HOI2 map; for example in Bosnia and in Iraq. The current set-up, while certainly much better than the original vanilla HOI2 map, still isn't all it could be, considering its built for combat in regions that really won't see it unless one is undergoing a World Conquest.
Also work towards converting some areas in the current map, to the way they were in the final HOI2 map; for example in Bosnia and in Iraq. The current set-up, while certainly much better than the original vanilla HOI2 map, still isn't all it could be, considering its built for combat in regions that really won't see it unless one is undergoing a World Conquest.
Suggestions:
-Rename provinces that still have vanilla names (such as Konigsberg, it should be Kalliningrad, and Stalingrad should be Volgograd)
-If Arab Spring events are going to be added in, and assuming that provisions would be made for the West to intervene, could events involving an intervention by Russia be present also? Such as with Syria how Russia sent the 100 or so OMON troops to assist the government.. They also have their naval base so it would seem logical that they should have the option of defending their interests from a potentially anti-russian future government
-Unification of Russia and Belarus, this is a somewhat real life possibility as they have established the Union of Russia and Belarus, and, until recently, were working towards a common currency, this could then be expanded onto the ideas presented by others of the Eurasian union and what have you
-On the death of Kim Jong Il, could events be made that could lead to destabilisation in North Korea? Possibly a coup d'etat by radicals in the military or party, or even a civil war as less-hardline members of the party and military seek to open up N.K to the rest of the world? If the softer-touches seize power, could event chains then be introduced that may lead down the path of an official armistice to the Korean War, and possible reunification?
-Georgian War events, if they are not already there (I managed to get to 2008 and the only war I fought as Russia was a war against Rumania over Transnistria, which I resolved by puppeting Rumania as there were no events that dealt with a Rumanian surrender), the Georgian war could also be a flashpoint for NATO vs Russia as the US was sending in warships and what have you
-In the case of Iran vs USA and Israel, if Russia had the choice to either: Condemn the invasion and assist Iran (with supplies and attaches or something), Support the invasion and assist NATO (surveillance assistance I suppose), stay neutral... If they were to choose the first option, the USA should then get an event (or chain) whereby they can either be mad at Russia but ultimately do nothing, withdraw from the invasion, or they can threaten Russia with hostilities, and thus, y'know, it snowballs and another WW3 flashpoint.
Wars / disputes associated with resources crises also would be an interesting option, such as the story behind Naval War: Arctic Circle, however, such wars would only reaaallly occur, generously, from the late 2010s... However, if the Middle East were to become unfriendly towards the West and drove up the cost of oil, or severely restricted it, this could lead to economic woes internationally, and, depending on the positions of nations such as Russia and China in relations to the Middle East, they could both take over the reigns of World powers, and you could, theoretically, end up with a result of bipolarity and a potential cold-war between Russia and China and their respective spheres...
Food for thought..
-Rename provinces that still have vanilla names (such as Konigsberg, it should be Kalliningrad, and Stalingrad should be Volgograd)
-If Arab Spring events are going to be added in, and assuming that provisions would be made for the West to intervene, could events involving an intervention by Russia be present also? Such as with Syria how Russia sent the 100 or so OMON troops to assist the government.. They also have their naval base so it would seem logical that they should have the option of defending their interests from a potentially anti-russian future government
-Unification of Russia and Belarus, this is a somewhat real life possibility as they have established the Union of Russia and Belarus, and, until recently, were working towards a common currency, this could then be expanded onto the ideas presented by others of the Eurasian union and what have you
-On the death of Kim Jong Il, could events be made that could lead to destabilisation in North Korea? Possibly a coup d'etat by radicals in the military or party, or even a civil war as less-hardline members of the party and military seek to open up N.K to the rest of the world? If the softer-touches seize power, could event chains then be introduced that may lead down the path of an official armistice to the Korean War, and possible reunification?
-Georgian War events, if they are not already there (I managed to get to 2008 and the only war I fought as Russia was a war against Rumania over Transnistria, which I resolved by puppeting Rumania as there were no events that dealt with a Rumanian surrender), the Georgian war could also be a flashpoint for NATO vs Russia as the US was sending in warships and what have you
-In the case of Iran vs USA and Israel, if Russia had the choice to either: Condemn the invasion and assist Iran (with supplies and attaches or something), Support the invasion and assist NATO (surveillance assistance I suppose), stay neutral... If they were to choose the first option, the USA should then get an event (or chain) whereby they can either be mad at Russia but ultimately do nothing, withdraw from the invasion, or they can threaten Russia with hostilities, and thus, y'know, it snowballs and another WW3 flashpoint.
Wars / disputes associated with resources crises also would be an interesting option, such as the story behind Naval War: Arctic Circle, however, such wars would only reaaallly occur, generously, from the late 2010s... However, if the Middle East were to become unfriendly towards the West and drove up the cost of oil, or severely restricted it, this could lead to economic woes internationally, and, depending on the positions of nations such as Russia and China in relations to the Middle East, they could both take over the reigns of World powers, and you could, theoretically, end up with a result of bipolarity and a potential cold-war between Russia and China and their respective spheres...
Food for thought..
A good idea in restauration of Soviet Union is :
If the Communist party of Russia wins,you can choose the option to a coup,who will creat the Russian SSR
After this you can made demands to all former USSA nations demanding reintegration(including baltic states),only Ukraine don't will accept.
You will send a demand to Ukraine,they will say no,and you attack and WW3 Begins
If the Communist party of Russia wins,you can choose the option to a coup,who will creat the Russian SSR
After this you can made demands to all former USSA nations demanding reintegration(including baltic states),only Ukraine don't will accept.
You will send a demand to Ukraine,they will say no,and you attack and WW3 Begins
Good idea...we need more triggers for world war in this modA good idea in restauration of Soviet Union is :
If the Communist party of Russia wins,you can choose the option to a coup,who will creat the Russian SSR
After this you can made demands to all former USSA nations demanding reintegration(including baltic states),only Ukraine don't will accept.
You will send a demand to Ukraine,they will say no,and you attack and WW3 Begins
Currently the only trigger for world war is the Taiwan independence events in 2008, but there are some players (including me) who found out that such trigger does not fire, or no nation decides to go for war after these events...Therefore I think we should add more triggers which could lead to a world conflict, so the mod itself will have more varity and randomness, like Kaiserreich.
By the way, I don't think the Baltic states would accept reintegration into a newborn USSR...they had bitter relations with it before. If a newborn USSR decides to demand their return, this could get either EU or NATO involved, since the Baltic states joined them in 2004. This could be another trigger for WW3.
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A good idea in restauration of Soviet Union is :
If the Communist party of Russia wins,you can choose the option to a coup,who will creat the Russian SSR
After this you can made demands to all former USSA nations demanding reintegration(including baltic states),only Ukraine don't will accept.
You will send a demand to Ukraine,they will say no,and you attack and WW3 Begins
It's not just gonna be the Ukraine that says no. The Baltic States will say no alongside the Ukraine (and probably Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan too) and if Russia tries their crap there then NATO will go "lol funny guys". And WW3 would more than likely start from there.
Because the E3map is years away from completion. And besides the devs of this mod has already said they will not convert.