They never fail without player intervention which is probably not appropriate considering they only lasted until 1644 in our history.
Maybe this is why Ming is too strong?
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Nobody's saying Ming is invincible, only OP. The distinction is pretty crucial.
Yeah, you didn't. And I didn't say you did either. I wasn't quoting you.
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I think the game has difficulties representing nations' decline, which is even harder with Ming since there are no real challengers for them, unlike for the nations in Europe. Still, the old Mingsplosion wasn't great either.
This makes no sense. The person you quoted brought it up, you said no one was saying it "but OP". I'm the only OP there can be in this situation, because the person you responded to didn't quote anyone... so, what are you even talking about?
So..
An idle nation just not caring for conquest/outside much, amasses a massive population, a population that get taxed by what they produce, and acts as a reserve military force?
And everyone around them knows this fact? and starts kissing ass.. Because nobody wants to be on bad terms with them, and gives gifts as well..
this kind of sounds like eu4 now by that logic, no?
I won't speak about historical events, like qing and such, I have no knowledge apart from these kind of threads... Which totally dont have citations so, kind of stuck on that point.
sounds just like its modelled in eu4 fairly similar to a translation to a game with such and such limitations unbeknown to us non-pdx'ers.
An idle nation just not caring for conquest/outside much, amasses a massive population, a population that get taxed by what they produce, and acts as a reserve military force?
And everyone around them knows this fact? and starts kissing ass.. Because nobody wants to be on bad terms with them, and gives gifts as well..
this kind of sounds like eu4 now by that logic, no?
I won't speak about historical events, like qing and such, I have no knowledge apart from these kind of threads... Which totally dont have citations so, kind of stuck on that point.
sounds just like its modelled in eu4 fairly similar to a translation to a game with such and such limitations unbeknown to us non-pdx'ers.
I doubt discussion is about player vs ming... more likely any AI nation vs ming O_O
Hordes don't need to be buffed directly, their AI needs to be reworked. I don't get how AI Manchu can get eaten up by Korea but I do see it happen a lot. Probably has to do with not fighting on flatland or expanding aggressively enough.
