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Happy VE day, everyone :D

With HOI4 coming in less than a month, will we know the price and have the ability to pre-order the game today? It would be really nice to and it would make sense today since it marks the last day of fighting in Europe.
 
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Doubtful. I would imagine we won't get a pre-order up until Stellaris is out. My guess is they will probably do it next week, so that their new game will have some time in the spotlight and the chance to get monies before putting out another game to get our monies. (Not complaining, I will still give PDX my monies)
 
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We used to celebrate on May 9th. Then, I was born May 8th - and so they´ve changed it to May 8th. Now I have always free day at my birthday. True story.
 
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for the celebrations, it's highly dependent on the country. For example, the Soviets didn't cease hostilities until the day after the official end of hostilities, fighting an urban battle in Prague on the 9th.
 

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for the celebrations, it's highly dependent on the country. For example, the Soviets didn't cease hostilities until the day after the official end of hostilities, fighting an urban battle in Prague on the 9th.
Yes -and that is why we used to celebrate it on 9th as well when we were Czechoslovakia.
 

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for the celebrations, it's highly dependent on the country. For example, the Soviets didn't cease hostilities until the day after the official end of hostilities, fighting an urban battle in Prague on the 9th.
German surrender was signed at midnight May 8, Berlin time. By Moscow time, it was May 9 - hence May 9th parade and celebration.
Western Allies tried to trick the USSR, by signing a treaty with Germans on May 7th, a treaty which ignored SU. Just that fact demonstrates how the western rulers regarded Soviet Union.
 
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This thread derailed quickly...

I expect that the preorder information will be released in World War Wednesday this week.
 
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i have yet to see a paradox title that isn't $40 USD on release for the standard version (in the US and other areas like australia).

Equivalent pricing to stellaris, EU IV etc.

the games are priced the exact same every release
 
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German surrender was signed at midnight May 8, Berlin time. By Moscow time, it was May 9 - hence May 9th parade and celebration.
Western Allies tried to trick the USSR, by signing a treaty with Germans on May 7th, a treaty which ignored SU. Just that fact demonstrates how the western rulers regarded Soviet Union.

The Soviets sent a representative but neglected to give him the authority to sign. Expecting the rest of europe to wait for their stupidity would be a bit harsh.
 
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German surrender was signed at midnight May 8, Berlin time. By Moscow time, it was May 9 - hence May 9th parade and celebration. Western Allies tried to trick the USSR, by signing a treaty with Germans on May 7th, a treaty which ignored SU. Just that fact demonstrates how the western rulers regarded Soviet Union.

At least they didn't sign something as the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact...

The western rulers had all the reasons to be wary of Soviet Union after their previous collusion with the nazis, their invasion of Poland (not to mention Katyń!), Baltic States, Finland. Despite that they were loyal to their allies and let them keep Eastern Europe under their boots for 45 years as a reward for their war contribution.
 
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On topic, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't the same price as Stellaris. Would be right odd for two games of similar scope (in terms of development, gameplay, etc - clearly a galactic canvas for the game is larger than the global canvas for HoI) to be released within a month of each other at different prices. My bet is pre-orders will go up towards the end of next week, but could be the week after. Wouldn't expect it after that.

German surrender was signed at midnight May 8, Berlin time. By Moscow time, it was May 9 - hence May 9th parade and celebration.
Western Allies tried to trick the USSR, by signing a treaty with Germans on May 7th, a treaty which ignored SU. Just that fact demonstrates how the western rulers regarded Soviet Union.

Not entirely true - there's a Soviet signature on the May 8 surrender document. I posted on the story of the surrender documents here:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...d-number-is-today.914236/page-2#post-20839991

Picture of Soviet signature on May 7 document included. There's even camera footage of both the May 7 and May 8 ceremonies, with Western Allied and Soviet representatives at both. There were definitely fears amongst the USSR of tricks taking place regarding the surrender, but they didn't occur. Even with the Soviet demand for a higher-ranking German signatory (for good reasons - the Germans did the dodgy on the Soviets by claiming it was just a lower-ranking signatory after the First World War), the plan was still to have both documents signed on the same day, but adminstrative hoo-ha delayed the signing of the Soviet armistice document until very early in the next morning.
 
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It would have been nice to have the pre-order on the 6th, but I can wait. $50 is my guess. With a range of $2-$25 per dlc.

Ridiculous that a bunch of political hoo-ha got dragged into this.

I'm just glad that we get to celebrate their defeat at all, rather than them debating when the USA officially surrendered.
 
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world war wednesday if anything. Its a marketing strategy think about it, an average of 12k people watch WWW so its the best place to advertise their products. so count on it being this wednesday or next.
 
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Just the Munich agreement.

You got a point, they were cowards and let down an ally. But at least they were not partners in crime as USSR.

It's a bit odd you seem concerned with Czecoslovakia's destiny at the hands of Germany as USSR occupied them much longer afterwards.


And if you really think that without M-R, Germany would not have attacked Poland - you need to study German plans and intentions of summer 1939 better.

What a lame justification !

Your honour, I did stole half the belongings of Mr. Poland, but they would have been stolen anyway by Mr. Germany, so I'm not really a thief...Are you kidding ? Guilty !

Germany was certainly waiting for an opportunity to attack Poland, Stalin chose to sell them an insurance policy in exchange for half Poland, the Baltic States and Finland (three wars of agression). The people of USSR would later pay dearly this gamble made by Stalin. Sadly, they didn't made him pay for this huge mistake and many still praise him. I think Russia is a great people because they won despite him.
 
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You got a point, they were cowards and let down an ally. But at least they were not partners in crime as USSR.
Is that why polish officers asked their Red Army captors to increase the number of their guards, when passing through Ukrainian villages in Western Ukraine?
It's a bit odd you seem concerned with Czecoslovakia's destiny at the hands of Germany as USSR occupied them much longer afterwards.
Seeing, how Czechs diligently produced weapons for Germany throughout the entire war - I have little sympathy.

Germany was certainly waiting for an opportunity to attack Poland, Stalin chose to sell them an insurance policy in exchange for half Poland, the Baltic States and Finland (three wars of agression). The people of USSR would later pay dearly this gamble made by Stalin. Sadly, they didn't made him pay for this huge mistake and many still praise him. I think Russia is a great people because they won despite him.
I know of Soviet invasion of Poland (over which the West did NOT declare war - interesting, isn't it?), of Soviet Winter war with Finland, but can you tell me the battles that occurred during the war between USSR and Baltic states? Or the dates? I was under the impression, that those 3 countries held a plebiscite to become a part of USSR, and no fighting was involved.
But seriously, had Stalin not say yes to M-R, USSR would have been in a much worse position in 1941. Hell - half of Poland that went to USSR was what the UK and France said should go to Moscow back in 1920! Poland conquered it from a country torn by civil war. So you can say, that Stalin just took it back from the thief!
 
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...can you tell me the battles that occurred during the war between USSR and Baltic states? Or the dates? I was under the impression, that those 3 countries held a plebiscite to become a part of USSR, and no fighting was involved...

If you seriously think that Baltic people voluntarily joined USSR then discussing with you is hopeless as you have been brainwashed by soviet propaganda.

This is what really happened: In June 1940, the Red Army occupied all of the territory of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and the Red Army installed new, pro-Soviet governments in all three countries. Following rigged elections, in which only pro-communist candidates were allowed to run, the newly "elected" parliaments of the three countries formally applied to "join" the Soviet Union in August 1940.

It is really sad because sometimes I find it interesting that you challenge some western common beliefs and I'm then willing to reconsider things with an open minded new perspective. But in the end you always revert to blatant lies and blunt propaganda, so after that I can only doubt everything you say (even if there was some truth in it).
 
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