Max number of AI civilizations ?

[Volodio]

So I started a game with 1000 stars and 30 AI empires (9 of them were advanced). Now I see around half of the galaxy's empires and I explored 1/5 of the systems, and I still didn't met any pre-FTL species or fallen empire (I selected 4 in the settings). Is this because there is a max of AI empires (30 I suppose) so there can't be one more, it's a bug or I'm very very unlucky ?

By the way, I just had one event of precursors. I don't know if it's related (because with the number of AI empires there is a few system which haven't been discovered, so I don't have a lot of anomalies), but just in case...

And I'm in 2263.


Edit : I just met one pre-FTL species, so on that I was just very unlucky.

 

[Ex Mudder]

35 years in, I have met no primitives and no FEs. I have met them in other games, but only one Prim in one game and one FE in another. There also seems to be a lot fewer AI empires around, even when I boost it to 24 AI and 6 advanced starts. I would usually meet 12 prims and 2 FEs, and maybe 50% more AI empires by this point in 1.4. Did meet one of each of the enclaves, and a couple leviathans.

They said they reduced primitives, but I think they went too far. Either that or this is a bug.

 

[Taritu]

Yeah, I'm actually restarting my second game because of no empires around. Did the default also get reduced?

 

[Fuu]

Hmm. I started 1000 stars, 30 AI empires, and I found a primitive civilization a few jumps outside my borders, and an AI about the same distance in the other direction. Maybe you were just unlucky.

 

[Cobalt60]

Don't think there is an actual hard limit as new AI empires are generated all the time when planets are liberated or factions rebel and take worlds. Maybe just had a poor RNG run.

 

[Volodio]

Fuu was right, I was just unlucky. I finally found the four fallen empires and eight pre-FTL species. But I had to discover almost all the galaxy to see that (9/10 systems explored). And none pre-sentient species.

They lowered the number of pre-FTL species, right ? Because before I was able to see thirty of them with a medium galaxy, now just eight with a big one (let's say twelve because I think some of them discovered space travel or were wiped out, now 90 years passed since I started the game). While there are forty-one space empires (including fallen empires).

 

[lifehole]

Pre FTL has been reduced from 6% occurence to 2%.

 

[Korvash]

Yeah, it's a shame they almost completely removed them. I really liked the pre ftl and pre sentients