Materialistic Xenophobes and robots

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How will materialism and xenophoby works with robots? If my founder species are both materialist and xenophobe will I be able to give robots I built rights to vote and be leaders, but restrict those rights for biological aliens? How will my pops who are both materialist and xenophobe react to this? Will they treat sentient robots as aliens even if I built them? Can I discriminate foreign robots but patronize my robots?
 

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How will materialism and xenophoby works with robots? If my founder species are both materialist and xenophobe will I be able to give robots I built rights to vote and be leaders, but restrict those rights for biological aliens? How will my pops who are both materialist and xenophobe react to this? Will they treat sentient robots as aliens even if I built them? Can I discriminate foreign robots but patronize my robots?
Interesting, but I believe unless the robots are sentient and you have given them rights that all robot workers act like slaves would. In other words, you could have sentient robot workers but if they aren't given rights they're slaves, and Xenophobes tolerate having Xenos as slaves rather than as free citizens.
 

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But are robots treated as aliens ? Are they treated as slaves until they get citizenship ? I think they are exceptions in both cases.

Because then materialistic, xenophobic, individualist nerd-like species, who instead of making friends the Blorg-way, prefers to literally make their own friends will have problems.

They would see them as different species, and dislike them, after giving them rights, and until then, rage for having slaves :(

I hope that robots are going to be exception to xenophoby and individualism problems, at least until they are sentient. After that - they will kinda be different race, won't they ?
 
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But are robots treated as aliens ? Are they treated as slaves until they get citizenship ? I think they are exceptions in both cases.

Because then materialistic, xenophobic, individualist nerd-like species, who instead of making friends the Blorg-way, prefers to literally make their own friends will have problems.

They would see them as different species, and dislike them, after giving them rights, and until then, rage for having slaves :(

I hope that robots are going to be exception to xenophoby and individualism problems, at least until they are sentient. After that - they will kinda be different race, won't they ?
Yeah there's definitely a problem there. Maybe they're not treated as aliens? After all, what kind of empire would build something themselves and in turn hate them for being "alien". They would just not build them at all.
 

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Kinda unrelated, but has it been said if there's tech or events that allow you to start mixing cybernetics with your own specie's biology?
 

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Yeah there's definitely a problem there. Maybe they're not treated as aliens? After all, what kind of empire would build something themselves and in turn hate them for being "alien". They would just not build them at all.

Fallout 4 and the Channel 4's "Humans" drama explores this theme.

Have to remember "Xeno" is not just related to out of place aliens, it is in the same category as disliking people from other countries, and generally, "things that are different".

I think a bunch of bigots would start get uppity very quickly when "I am not going to get ruled by my frigging toaster, the world has gone mad!"
 

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The Railroad? I'm surprised they're still not running around trying to liberate vending machines.
 

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Isn't spiritualist the soulless machine hater and xenophobes only loath foreign meatbags?
 
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Isn't spiritualist the soulless machine hater and xenophobes only loath foreign meatbags?
Materialists are pro-robots, and devs said, that materialists pops will support giving sentient robots rights. But xenophobes hate all aliens, no matter who they are, so it may include sentient robots too. If sentient robots arent considered aliens by xenophobes, then it may give xenophobes an unfair advantage when dealing with empires full with those sentient robots or even ruled by ones, if in future sentient robots will become able to form their owns empires.