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Civ 4, for example, benefits from having 1 GB of ram or even more.
Playing huge maps with only 512 MB isn´t fun at all and I wouldn´t consider Civ an action game.
The requirements for Civ have multiplied since it went 3D and I think it will be just the same with EU III.
 

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Pen² said:
Civ 4, for example, benefits from having 1 GB of ram or even more.
Playing huge maps with only 512 MB isn´t fun at all and I wouldn´t consider Civ an action game.
The requirements for Civ have multiplied since it went 3D and I think it will be just the same with EU III.

I just spent the last couple of hours playing CivIV with my less than 1GB system and I enjoyed it just fine, thank you.
 

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As I said it depends on the map size.
I only play very huge maps and that was quite a pain in the ass on 512 MB, especially in the late-game.

I agree that this playability-debate is a very subjective topic.
Even the late-game of HOI 2 was sometimes annoyingly slow on my old xp2400+ with 512 MB, at least for me. But I´m sure you will find many people here on the forum who will have no problem with increased waiting times per ingame-hour.
It´s just a question of how much you can bear before the fun decreases and that´s always a personal matter.
 

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if the game doesn't engross you just because time advances a bit slower, its the failure of the game to not be as fun as it should be, not the failure of the hardware for not being able to handle it as quickly toward the end as it did in the beginning :p
 

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Myth said:
if the game doesn't engross you just because time advances a bit slower, its the failure of the game to not be as fun as it should be, not the failure of the hardware for not being able to handle it as quickly toward the end as it did in the beginning :p

A feature setting the game to pause on a specified date, as well as with the other set occasions due to ingame circumstances could moot the speed issue - as it would allow the player to do something useful while waiting for the game to process the "turn".
 

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No Civ4 becomes unplayable because the interface slows down and becomes a burden to use. The time between turns is not that much of a problem.

Playing a game of "try and hit this button when the pointer lacks 2 seconds behind" is just not very fun.
 

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I think the strength of EU2 was that it was a top down 2d game that resembled a map from a historical atlas. I dont see the need to add 3d graphics which look like something from Medieval total war II! Ive never been a fan of this 3D revoulution as it never quite feels as fluid as the old 2d games. plus you instantly seem to sacriface some depth for a visual bonus. i would prefer if EU3 had a crisp and colourful 2d display with in game movies and animations than a 3D inteface. the detail of the game could hen be so much better!

Im lucky i have 2 computers so one is definatly powerful enough to run the game. byt i dont think it will run on my laptop ....this means the LAN games me and my brother like are ruled out! plus im gonna have to share playing time with him!

and despite all this EU3 is my next buy (after Victoria ;) )
 

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michimueller said:
Any chance to play EUIII on a Radeon 9200 SE? I know that it doesn't support Shader V.2, but maybe there will be a patch like for oblivion (which I can play with said Radeon 9200 SE just fine)? :confused:

The answer for your question surely lies earlier in this thread, IIRC as a link to a wikipedia site.
 

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Let me just confirm again: I have a NVidia GeForce FX 5500 and 256 MB of RAM. Should I upgrade to 1 Gigabyte or 512 is fine for EUIII?
 

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well, the more the better, but I'm relatively sure that 512 will be all right
 

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The answer for your question surely lies earlier in this thread, IIRC as a link to a wikipedia site.
Ah damn, so that does mean it won't work under any circumstances? (if I read that right on wiki?) I was hoping it would, because I can still run any other game out there on the market so far, and the paradox games where never on the hardware demanding side (at least as far as graphics go, Ram and Cpu are of course another thing due to the many computer controlled nations). :(

PS: Oh well, I think its time to upgrade then. :eek:o
 

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Until EU3 I had no need for a better system than my Pentium 3 with 870GHz and 384RAM. Now I'm really troubled whether this game really worth spending hundreds of bucks on... :(

Well, I guess you'll have to face that your PC is really, really old. OK, thanks to the Ram most games from Paradox still run fairly quickly, but 512MB Ram is now more or less the minimum, better 1 GB. I guess as a game developer you can start thinking to make games needing 512MB to run smoothly as minimum. And your processor is very old.

You can get a new motherboard, ram(1GB) and processor(you'll go with a low-end for less then 100 €) so your new system should not be more than 300 €, and there should be even some money for a new graphic card.

As long as Paradox doesn't go crazy on hardware asking like other companies (I mean, 512MB and 1,5Ghz should now be something you should be able to play games, I don't say on max. details) I'm support more demanding software. My PC has now passed the 3 years-age, and I'll be able to play on it. Maybe one bar of Ram more (512MB more) and it will be perfectly fine for another year. But a lot of games from other companies are already asking for more, more, more! One PC change every 4 years should be ok. So, that means that new games should still be running (on medium-low details) on medium-high priced maschines which were sold 4 years ago. That's what I'm asking all game developers. And P'dox is still doing great for that.
 

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ilrhim said:
I will be buying a laptop very soon - partly to be able to play and review EU3 (I work away from home). But I am wondering if it will be possible to play it in Windowed Mode or in Widescreen mode (without stretching). Does anyone know?
AFAIK, we don't know that yet - and those who do can't say.

EU3 will be very moddable though. ;)
 

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1.9 GHz and the Core Duo

Hey all,

Sorry for the system requirements question but I figure people here are just as knowledgable as most retailers. I'm looking to get a new desktop - to play EU3 among other things.

I was looking over the requirements on the offical EU3 webpage and it said 1.9 GHz. I've noticed a lot of the brand new Intel Core Duo processors are like 1.86 GHz. Now either EU3 has mind-blowing graphics and everyone needs a new computer to play it (doubtfull) or these processors are faster than the standard Pentium or what not. Is this the case? If I purchased a Core Duo computer with 1.8 GHz would I be fine, or do I still need over 2?

Hope that made sense.
 

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Sinbuster said:
Hey all,

Sorry for the system requirements question but I figure people here are just as knowledgable as most retailers. I'm looking to get a new desktop - to play EU3 among other things.

I was looking over the requirements on the offical EU3 webpage and it said 1.9 GHz. I've noticed a lot of the brand new Intel Core Duo processors are like 1.86 GHz. Now either EU3 has mind-blowing graphics and everyone needs a new computer to play it (doubtfull) or these processors are faster than the standard Pentium or what not. Is this the case? If I purchased a Core Duo computer with 1.8 GHz would I be fine, or do I still need over 2?

Hope that made sense.

With the CORE DUO CPU you wont have any problem with the EU3. :) CORE DUO is one of the fastest CPU in these days. :)
 

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Core 2 Duos perform at about twice the speed of their Pentium 4 counterparts. So your 1.86GHZ C2D will perform as if it was a 3.72GHZ P4. On top of that, you can over clock those quite a bit.