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Well there's no way in hell my laptop is playing this game, minus one customer for Paradox :( Sorry, but there's no way that a poor man like me is going to spend a grand on a new comp just for a new game. EUII rules anyway, so I won't miss it.
 

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jdrou said:
Sounds like it's a pretty new item so there probably aren't many (if any) available yet. I'd just wait until EU3 is closer to release and see what's available then. If you must have a new card now look for a GeForce FX 5500 or 6200; they're probably cheaper and still support PS 2.0.
6200 supports :p

(I had to buy one :( not that expensive but not expected)
 

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Its not like all marriages consist of some sissy husband afraid to stand up to his wife :rofl:

Both should be about equal, but if anyone is going to be the boss, it should be the guy :)

Talk about setting yourself up for a fall.... :p

What most single persons don't realize (i didn't) is the amount of egocentrism is allowed/possible as long as you are single. Not to forget that it is so very easy to match your spending to your preferences.
When you have someone you love, the situation suddenly looks very different. Because two persons usually do not have the same preferences ofr even the same tolerance levels. Those clothes of which you say, "Yeah well, there is a small hole in it. So what, it is functional isn't it" , suddenly turn out as Non-Functional the moment "appearance" becomes part of the function.
That old Sofa with beer stains and some other stain you inherited from the previous owner, has to be replaced....
Those $1000 every 2 years you had for a new box suddenly have a lot of competing destinations. And worse, if you ask your parents, they usually will not take YOUR side :p
 
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The problem is the realistic expectations. This game has the 3D graphics of a game from 2001, thus I expect to run perfectly on a machine from 2003.

It seems completely illogical to have:
1. A turn based strategy game
2. Nice, but average graphics
3. Have a hardware requirements like that of TES4: Oblivion.
 

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Carewolf2 said:
The problem is the realistic expectations. This game has the 3D graphics of a game from 2001, thus I expect to run perfectly on a machine from 2003.

It seems completely illogical to have:
1. A turn based strategy game
2. Nice, but average graphics
3. Have a hardware requirements like that of TES4: Oblivion.
Turn based? :confused:
 

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Wtbrg said:
Sorry to stir this old topic, but if you only have a PCI system and want Pixel Shader version 3, there is a new most powerful P.C.I. card:

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35471

Geforce 5600 is about 1600M/s fill rate
Radeon X1300 is about 1800M/s fill rate.

A nice choice for EU3 I'm sure.

I went for a 256 meg Geforce 6200 as I only have PCI. I guess that's a bit slower then the 5600 but will still be perfectly adequate for EU3 I'm sure.

Cost me 50 pounds sterling (about 85 dollars).

Yes, upgrading the computer would be better but I can't afford it so there you go :rofl:
 

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I went for a 256 meg Geforce 6200 as I only have PCI. I guess that's a bit slower then the 5600 but will still be perfectly adequate for EU3 I'm sure.

It looks like 6200 is 1.4m/s as opposed to 5600's 1.6m/s. So tell me, what were you using before? Can you see an improvement? :D
 

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You mean that you haven't heard? :D
Hmmm....I guess maybe I should log a bug on the continuous play I'm experiencing with my beta version?
 

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Sindai said:
Games from 2001 wouldn't use PS 2.0. :)
He's saying that it looks like a game from 2001. Using new features like PS 1.4 or PS 2.0 doesn't necessarily mean the game looks better.
 

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Wtbrg said:
It looks like 6200 is 1.4m/s as opposed to 5600's 1.6m/s. So tell me, what were you using before? Can you see an improvement? :D

I should clarify - that's what I ordered :D

I'm still waiting for it so can't compare yet. At the moment I'm using a 128 meg Radeon 9250 (so can do pixelshader 1.1 but nothing better). From the specs for that it looks like 1.1m/s.

It wouldn't surprise me if I don't notice the difference :rofl:
 

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Carewolf2 said:
It didn't need to, to get the same results. This is what I mean. The game is nice looking, but it is not using the required graphics power to do anything extraordinary.

They're stuck making the game look nice for marketing reasons, and I think we all want EU3 to sell like mad so the publishing world realizes how important our favorite types of games are. MMORPGs print money so now everyone makes them, and fans can play almost any kind of MMORPG they want.

I'd love to see a mini-version of the same thing for historical strategy games, so I accept the need for graphics requirements that aren't absolutely necessary for this type of game. I want to see EU3 do very well, even if I couldn't stand the grin on Mats Sundin's face last Saturday as he ruined my night. Well, Mats is out a few weeks and the Leafs may be golfing early again this year.
 

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I'm kinda bumping a very old thread, but still I have an important question:


Not many concerns with graphic cards now that I upgraded mine, but how many RAM will EU3 need to be played without lagging, that is, "satisfactorly"?
 

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I'm kinda bumping a very old thread, but still I have an important question:


Not many concerns with graphic cards now that I upgraded mine, but how many RAM will EU3 need to be played without lagging, that is, "satisfactorly"?

At least 6 Gig. You also need a 7 Gigahertz Dual-Core 64 bit processor, and the new nVidia holographic projection video card (not the old one, the holograph v 2.0 one). And a real man would have at least a 900W power supply in it.

Side note: Common sense would say at least 512 since that has been "standard" on PCs for 3 years and 1-2G is standard on newer machines.
 

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That means I can´t play EU III with the 32 MB of EDO-Ram that are installed in my Pentium 166 MMX? How lame from Paradox cause I just upgraded my graphics card from a matrox mystique to one of that new Riva 128 thingies - all in vain.
:rofl:
 

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Duuk said:
And a real man would have at least a 900W power supply in it.
That isn't even that outrageous; I've seen ads for 750W power supplies for gaming PCs.
Side note: Common sense would say at least 512 since that has been "standard" on PCs for 3 years and 1-2G is standard on newer machines.
1-2GB may be standard on gaming PCs but if you buy a typical PC off the shelf it will probably still have 512MB or even 256. And I would expect that EU3 will probably run with 256; you won't enjoy it but it will run. The minimum supported (i.e. stated on the packaging) will probably be 512MB though. Anyone with more than a passing interest in gaming should really have at least 1 Gig in their PC by now. Even moreso in laptops since the penalty for running out of physical RAM is more severe because of the slower hard drive. Even current Paradox games benefit from having more than 512MB.
 

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jdrou said:
1-2GB may be standard on gaming PCs but if you buy a typical PC off the shelf it will probably still have 512MB or even 256. And I would expect that EU3 will probably run with 256; you won't enjoy it but it will run. The minimum supported (i.e. stated on the packaging) will probably be 512MB though. Anyone with more than a passing interest in gaming should really have at least 1 Gig in their PC by now. Even moreso in laptops since the penalty for running out of physical RAM is more severe because of the slower hard drive. Even current Paradox games benefit from having more than 512MB.

I have not had any problems with the games I play from having only 768MB, 1GB is not yet a common requirement for non-action games. Of course one should not buy a new computer with less than 1GB, but it isn't really necessary to upgrade yet.