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Grosshaus said:
There are also females out there who refuse to allocate family funds to anything that doesn't please their aesthetic eye. Unfortunately laptops look prettyer and take less space in the living room :(


Females often have the side-effect of making gaming either a lot less or a lot more necessary.
 

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As I recall, the best P.C.I. graphics card is the Geforce 5600. (5700 is slower)

There may be a 256MB version, but I am not sure. Look that up if you're trying to get fast graphics from P.C.I.

You can do this, but your money will probably go about 1000% percent more if you spend the same amount for a P.C.I.-E. card for the PCI-E system you don't have.
 

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Grosshaus said:
There are also females out there who refuse to allocate family funds to anything that doesn't please their aesthetic eye. Unfortunately laptops look prettyer and take less space in the living room :(

Lol, well fortunately I won't have that problem as I won't let my future wife dictate to me how I will spend my money, especially not when it comes to something technical like computers in which my knowledge is 1000x greater than hers :rofl:
 

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ddmarkm said:
Laptops are not meant for gaming, so while its unfortunate that games don't work on your laptop, you could have anticipated that before you bought it. A laptop trades power/capability for portability. Case closed.
Not entirely true. Most recent laptops (excluding the cheapest ones) have quite a decent feature set.
There are even laptop designed specifically for gaming (Alienware, for example).

(I'm running the beta versions on a laptop, so I know what I'm talking about)
 

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Wtbrg said:
As I recall, the best P.C.I. graphics card is the Geforce 5600. (5700 is slower)

There may be a 256MB version, but I am not sure. Look that up if you're trying to get fast graphics from P.C.I.

There is.

You can do this, but your money will probably go about 1000% percent more if you spend the same amount for a P.C.I.-E. card for the PCI-E system you don't have.

But for many of us, we really don't care about graphics performance. This issue is EU-compliance and not buying a new comp.
 

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ddmarkm said:
Lol, well fortunately I won't have that problem as I won't let my future wife dictate to me how I will spend my money, especially not when it comes to something technical like computers in which my knowledge is 1000x greater than hers :rofl:

You only say that because you arent married yet ;)
 

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Inferis said:
Not entirely true. Most recent laptops (excluding the cheapest ones) have quite a decent feature set.
There are even laptop designed specifically for gaming (Alienware, for example).

(I'm running the beta versions on a laptop, so I know what I'm talking about)

My statement was a generalization. Obviously there are SOME laptops that are good enough for gaming, but these are very high end and very expensive, and I think most people who need such capability will want to save money and spend it on a gaming-capable PC.

Total-Krig said:
You only say that because you arent married yet

Whenever I do get married, if my wife decides that she can try to boss me around, she can take a hike the next day.
 

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Inferis said:
Not entirely true. Most recent laptops (excluding the cheapest ones) have quite a decent feature set.
There are even laptop designed specifically for gaming (Alienware, for example).

(I'm running the beta versions on a laptop, so I know what I'm talking about)

ddmarkm said:
My statement was a generalization. Obviously there are SOME laptops that are good enough for gaming, but these are very high end and very expensive, and I think most people who need such capability will want to save money and spend it on a gaming-capable PC.
I have to agree with ddmarkm on this one. I require too much performance that a laptop easily doubles/triples/... the cost while giving less performance. For now the huge rise in costs and huge decline in power (IMO of course) prevents me from gaming via a laptop.
ddmarkm said:
Whenever I do get married, if my wife decides that she can try to boss me around, she can take a hike the next day.
Spoken like a true "not married" person. You'll come to the light when you get married :D . Wife = boss = ... :p. I already feel sorry for you :rofl: .
 

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Just for info...

alot of us who are married, and with kids etc find that the only time we have to play games are on business trips and our lunchours.... in which case we are running games on laptops provided by our company, (not all companies ban personal use of company laptops as long as your not downloading porn or filesharing or being stupid) and company laptops are invariable something purchased as part of a bulk contract designed to optimize cost usually at the expense of performace, (i.e. there isn't very much in the way of corporate software that requires anything remotely close to the latest graphic card)... so we end up with computers that may not be what we would choose for ourselves...

in my case I'm lucky... just transfered so got a brand new computer, 2 months old....

it has a "Intel 915GM/GMS,910GML express" video card (which by the way does support pixel shading 2.0) so I'll likely be getting EUIII... (although the CPU's a bit slow...)

but I would say 95% of the comptuers on my floor wouldn't support the game. (my last one definately wouldn't have and it was less than a year old) after all you really dont need much to check email and run excell.

So to those who are dissing those of us without a latest and greatest gaming system... there are reasons why we don't.. yes I could easily afford a $5000 desktop gaming system from Alien-ware... but the fact is there is no point. My $5000 dual core 2 GB card system would sit there gathering dust except for perhaps 2 hours Saturday morning when the kids are watching cartoons and my spouse is sleeping-in. or worse yet... 90% of the time would be spend playing "Barney visits the farm- Interactive CD-Rom"

you get the picture...
 

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Sierra_Falcon said:
Just for info...

alot of us who are married, and with kids etc find that the only time we have to play games are on business trips and our lunchours.... in which case we are running games on laptops provided by our company

How many of "us" get company laptops?
 

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Again, disagree... almost all computers nowadays have _all_ the essential interfaces built into the motherboards, and therefore will have free PCI slots 99% of the time.

(To Registered: Yes, PCI-E is the current graphics card standard, but it is possible to get EU3 compatible PCI cards. Of course, the performance of aforementioned cards would be pretty abysmal.)

Perhaps we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about over all computers, not just ones that were once considered high-end or gaming.
 

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QwertyKeyboard said:
Perhaps we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about over all computers, not just ones that were once considered high-end or gaming.

I am talking about all computers. I defy you to give me an example of a mainstream non-laptop computer that doesn't have a free PCI slot ;)
 

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Nagel said:
Spoken like a true "not married" person. You'll come to the light when you get married :D . Wife = boss = ... :p. I already feel sorry for you :rofl: .

Its not like all marriages consist of some sissy husband afraid to stand up to his wife :rofl:

Both should be about equal, but if anyone is going to be the boss, it should be the guy :)