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I'm playing as Germany on 1.06 and CORE .81, i just spent my first year as Germany just rushing techs until i hit about April i begin to start pumping out infantry divions. Then I notice my steel resource shooting down very rapidly. I move my mouse and it says i only produce 150 and use 350 or something like the sort. I go to the world market and put some trades up for coal (My coal is about 70,000) and my steel goes up about 6 a day, and my coal goes down by around 300. I delete the new trade immediatly then both resources begin to plummit until im at about 300 each out basically ruining my economy. Recovery doesn't happen either just a steady 300. Anyone know why this is an d how i can fix it?. This is before I have started any production of tanks, so i have no real use for oil yet. My best guess would be the coal converting to rubber, but I do not see any viable way to to get a hold on any rubber. Maybe some better industry techs? But I really don't see how I can get any better techs if I dont have the economy to support it.. Any help would be appreciated thanks :)
 

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I'm playing as Germany on 1.06 and CORE .81, i just spent my first year as Germany just rushing techs until i hit about April i begin to start pumping out infantry divions. Then I notice my steel resource shooting down very rapidly. I move my mouse and it says i only produce 150 and use 350 or something like the sort. I go to the world market and put some trades up for coal (My coal is about 70,000) and my steel goes up about 6 a day, and my coal goes down by around 300. I delete the new trade immediatly then both resources begin to plummit until im at about 300 each out basically ruining my economy. Recovery doesn't happen either just a steady 300. Anyone know why this is an d how i can fix it?. This is before I have started any production of tanks, so i have no real use for oil yet. My best guess would be the coal converting to rubber, but I do not see any viable way to to get a hold on any rubber. Maybe some better industry techs? But I really don't see how I can get any better techs if I dont have the economy to support it.. Any help would be appreciated thanks :)

It is vital for germany to rush through the industry techs. The industry tech tree is very short and you can finish it off quite quickly. I always research one theoritical tech and one applied tech when I play germany. The earlier you pick up the improved conversion techs the longer your existing stocks will last.

Another point is that you should pick up some stockpiles when you take enemy capitals etc.
 

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Playing CORE? Hmmm...it will take a lot longer to get through the industrial techs (as with any tech) than it would in the vanilla HOI. I would still urge you to prioritize the industrial techs like jmpt advised. By 1940-41, when your industry will probably begin to soar, you should be able to get to the Improved oil and rubber conversion techs, but you won't reach the Advanced until late '43 at the earliest.

Beyond that, just try to find ways to squeeze out every last resource you can:

- Don't give any coal to Italy. They won't help you out much, and you shouldn't be associating with such feckless autocrats in the first place. You should still trade with Sweden, though. They're good people.
- Begin trading coal for rubber at 3:1 right away (wait maybe 3 or 4 days), coal for oil at 2:1, and coal for steel at 1:1. You should be able to stabilize your resources with minor gains to rubber and steel with the IC level you start with.
- Cancel all trades when war breaks out (newbie knowledge, but just in case)
- It's OK to be low in coal when the war breaks out, concentrate on maximizing the others.
- Give your industry a little break early on: build AA along your NW border. The lower IC will help you build your resource reserves for the first couple years, and it could end up helping you out even more if the USAF catches you off-guard.
- Once you get to 1940, the combined reserves of Norway, the Low Countries, and France should be enough to get by on for quite some time. Just last until then. And if you take London, you'll be on easy street.
 

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You don't know what is losing resources. Last time I conquered London, my stockpile of oil, 70000 units, became -30000 :eek: . The other resouces went down as well, but no so much. Of course, I cheated and gave me back all that lost resources. ;) .