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The main reason, that I remember reading - was that the models used in the mod were taken from another mod from Sins of a Solar Empire. While the mod credited them - the author apparently didn't ask for permission, and the original model creators asked for them to be taken down.
 

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I see. Too bad the moddr didn't ask original designer for a permission, still not a reason to take down the mod. Most modders state "can use if credited" so it might have been an honest mistake. Hope they resolve this.

Actually it is, it can be very painfull to see your work being used without your permission. Plus paradox' mod rules also state you can not use someone elses work unless you have permission. Credditing in case the authors are no longer active can be used a lot however when its an ongoing project you have to ask permission from the author and honor their anwser whatever it is.
 
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Actually it is, it can be very painfull to see your work being used without your permission. Plus paradox' mod rules also state you can not use someone elses work unless you have permission. Credditing in case the authors are no longer active can be used a lot however when its an ongoing project you have to ask permission from the author and honor their anwser whatever it is.

And yet, when it happened to me, not only did the community not give a shit to the point of being hostile to me for complaining about the mod theft, the CM actually said "meh, I'm not going to enforce the rule this time."

Oh, and also, people actually tried to claim that mods were inherently open-source.

So, really, it's kind of a crapshoot.
 
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@ShadowDragon868 you were telling people that if they wanted a variant of your mod they should make their own, and when someone took you up on that you threw a hissy fit.
Not the same issue.

No, dude. I at no point said "make a variant of my mod." He straight-up ripped off my mod, changed some numbers, and slap-in-the-face slapped it on the workship as "<My Mod's Name>: Balanced" as the title with a logo that clearly aped my mod.

I said to look inside my mod to get an idea how I did it. Not straight-up copy-paste my mod with some changed numbers and an aped logo.
 

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No, dude. I at no point said "make a variant of my mod." He straight-up ripped off my mod, changed some numbers, and slap-in-the-face slapped it on the workship as "<My Mod's Name>: Balanced" as the title with a logo that clearly aped my mod.

I said to look inside my mod to get an idea how I did it. Not straight-up copy-paste my mod with some changed numbers and an aped logo.

i understand your frustration i really do, but the down side between code and art is that code or script can only be done in so many ways, art is a whole other thing. I can give you 20 different 3d models of a star destroyer and theyll all be unique. but 1+1 in code will still always be 2.
 

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i understand your frustration i really do, but the down side between code and art is that code or script can only be done in so many ways, art is a whole other thing. I can give you 20 different 3d models of a star destroyer and theyll all be unique. but 1+1 in code will still always be 2.

He straight-up copy-pasted my mod. Code, commentary, key names and all. He did so maliciously, with the intention that people could unsub mine and sub his. He used the name of my mod - is still using a variation of the name of my mod, and an aped logo, to imitate my mod.

He became, and remained, wholly belligerent about the thing when I pointed out "Dude, you straight-up ripped off my fucking mod, not cool, I did not give you permission to do that." In the comments to his ripoff later on, he even goes on a rant about how I got "bitchy" at him and how mods are "open source" and I had no right to complain about any of it.
 

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The difference is, your mod was about 5 minutes work. The Mass Effect ship models are months worth.
 

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The difference is, your mod was about 5 minutes work. The Mass Effect ship models are months worth.

It was not, in fact, five minutes of work, and I am unaware of any formalized moral code in which doing harm, damage, theft or insult to another is acceptable based on the scale of the outrage.

At what point does mod theft become unacceptable? An hour's work? A day's? A week's? A month's? Plural months' work? Is it not based on time, but strictly on artistic creativity expended, meaning that a mod which is only text files and numbers is thieving-OK, a mod which contains a lot of creative fluff text is borderline, and anything which contains graphics is over-the-line?

Where is the line drawn?!
 

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So is there a Mass Effect ship mod for Stellaris?

There is, or rather, there was. The guy who made it, apparently, ripped off the models from a Mass Effect ship mod for another game, and did not ask for permission to do so. The creator of that mod apparently sent a DMCA takedown to Valve, who nuked the mod; that, or they complained to the PDX Community Manager, who actually decided to enforce the rules for a graphical mod. Some people have probably got the mod saved somewhere.