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In order to form an alliance with another nation, do I need to marry off someone in my close family to someone in the other dynasty's close family?

Or could I marry them to a courtier / council person too?

My son keeps hassling me to find him a wife, but there are no suitable women that are within any ruler's dynasties.

At what point should I just marry him off to any old courtier woman I can find? The longer I wait the more he is going to dislike me right?
 

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You have to marry a family member of a ruler to get an alliance. In the marriage-list there's a blue flag showing up when a marriage would gain you an alliance. You can wait for years if you want. Just keep in mind that the game loooves to kill unmarried courtiers. Oddly enough if you marry and land them they will live longer ...

If you can't find any suitable person in due time you shouldn't marry "any old courtier woman". I would go to the people-finding-list, switch to everywhere, sort by stewardship and select one that's younger than 20. Plus points if you find a girl with the genius trait (or another positive genetical trait).
 
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You have to marry a family member of a ruler to get an alliance.

To be more specific, it has to be the ruler's sibling or child (not sure about grandchild).

Another thing you could do is find a woman with a nice claim you might be able to press. If you install you heir's wife on a throne that has a fitting inheritance law, you will very likely get an offspring that inherits both thrones.
 

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In order to form an alliance with another nation, do I need to marry off someone in my close family to someone in the other dynasty's close family?

Or could I marry them to a courtier / council person too?

My son keeps hassling me to find him a wife, but there are no suitable women that are within any ruler's dynasties.

At what point should I just marry him off to any old courtier woman I can find? The longer I wait the more he is going to dislike me right?

I think you are trying to marry your heir through the diplomacy button. This will limit your son's marriage partners to only your courtiers. You need to go to your heir/son's character screen and look for the ring button. That's the one to the bottom right corner of your son's portrait. This will give you the option to marry outside of your court. There is something wrong if you don't have any choices outside of your own court for marriage unless your heir is an extremely old female. Also, do not give your heir any titles before you marry him. If he become landed you no longer have control over who he marries.
 

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He is only going to dislike you once. There is a chance that he'll run away and marry on his own, though.

I never marry heirs to nobles. I open the list of all female unmarried character, and find him a young genius/quick maiden.
 

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actually if you arrange a betrothal with another noble on your son's behalf and then land him, he'll still stick to the deal and marry when both are 16+. Do keep in mind that that the betrothal deal only keeps the NPC locked from marriage until both sides are 16+ and at that moment one side still needs to convince the other, so if you're already pushing the envelope to convince that queen to marry your son in a regular marriage, your son may not be able to secure the deal when the time comes if he's not as good as diplomat as you. Also if the wife-to-be dies he's then free to marry whatever commoner he chooses.

Overall, if the stakes are high you might wanna hold off on landing your heir. For example, in my current game I got my heir betrothed to the infant queen of Leon (with Galicia and Portucale in her realm) and even tough I really need to drop a duchy from my demesne because of penalties, I'm holding it off till the marriage is done since I have a better chance of keeping her to her word when the time comes. If you're an emperor, your sons is going to be a king till youre dead and you want him to marry a daughter of a baron, you can safely go ahead and land him. If she dies, just load as your heir (or charinfo 1 --> play *character ID* on console) and choose your heir's wife, if you consider that cheating you really need to get your priorities straight.

As the the OP's question, I rarely marry my heir for alliances, or rather, that comes third in my list of priorities. Firstly I look for wives who are actually preety (for this reason I only look at 16+). It may seem shallow but if I'll be playing the offspring of that couple in the future, I want the kids to look at least decent in the portrait. Second, I look for positive genetic traits, which are always good to add to your bloodline as a genius king makes for a stable game. Lastly, I may look at the alliance gained as a tie braker. Now as for my other sons and daughters, those are my alliance makers and are usually betrothed at age 0.
 
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