This is now the Diplomacy Thread, scheming and backstabbing plots may begin. :wacko:
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I'll first start it off by stating that the Emperor of China wish only good will towards its European vassals and hopes that the differences between them can be resolved peacefully.
From the Royal Court in London
We in England have already grown tired of these ceaseless assualts on our rightful dominion by both the armies of Burgundy and Italy. And though we have repulsed those attacks many times via diplomacy or warfare, the English crown and even its people grow wroth at these transgressions.
We in England have already grown tired of these ceaseless assualts on our rightful dominion by both the armies of Burgundy and Italy. And though we have repulsed those attacks many times via diplomacy or warfare, the English crown and even its people grow wroth at these transgressions.
We in the great nation of Bengal believe that it is our right to claim all lands south of the Ganges river and east of the Indus river in the name of a united India, and will resist all attempts of nations, European or otherwise, to settle in the indian subcontinent. However, deals can be made regarding this proclimation, as long as acknowledgement is made to the rulers of India in advance.
As to our heavenly neighbours to the northeast, we ask for a hand in friendship. We believe it is in the interests of our people that we do not become enemies over petty squabbles while dividing the far east.
Burgundian AAR
EDIT: Just realised this was the diplomacy thread and not the AAR thread.
EDIT: Just realised this was the diplomacy thread and not the AAR thread.
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That is indeed an AAR, as AAR stands for After Action Report, and this is indeed an After Action Report.
Furthermore, I have not intended to write a long story about some guy, his life and how he rises to power. This is an AAR that shows the countrys development during the session, an AAR doesnt need to be 2 pages long. Everyone writes AARs in his own way.
One more thing, write an AAR yourself before you start complaining about mine, Im the only one that has done an AAR so far.
Furthermore, I have not intended to write a long story about some guy, his life and how he rises to power. This is an AAR that shows the countrys development during the session, an AAR doesnt need to be 2 pages long. Everyone writes AARs in his own way.
One more thing, write an AAR yourself before you start complaining about mine, Im the only one that has done an AAR so far.
((Wrong I have wrriten an AAR check the EU2 aar suboforum thread.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239815))
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239815))
Oh great King of Burgandy who rules his people with such benevolence I wish to clarify our treaty. on the division of the America's.
It appears t me that the land I currnetly get is truly very small when compared to what Burgandy can get with the current guidelines of the treaty.
I wish that we agree to have our mutual zones of interests moved farther south to the Coloderado river. This treaty my advisors tell me would still give you massive amounts of land especially since you will be annexing Nevada. China does not possess the ability to explore much farther inland for it is terra incognita dispite the best efforts of our conquistadors.
These new guidelines which the Heavenly Emperor of the Middle Kingdom shall forever hold sacred would allow China to gain a fair yet humble share of the continent and leave our European brethen with nearly 80% of North America.
We await your words earnestly my frend.
It appears t me that the land I currnetly get is truly very small when compared to what Burgandy can get with the current guidelines of the treaty.
I wish that we agree to have our mutual zones of interests moved farther south to the Coloderado river. This treaty my advisors tell me would still give you massive amounts of land especially since you will be annexing Nevada. China does not possess the ability to explore much farther inland for it is terra incognita dispite the best efforts of our conquistadors.
These new guidelines which the Heavenly Emperor of the Middle Kingdom shall forever hold sacred would allow China to gain a fair yet humble share of the continent and leave our European brethen with nearly 80% of North America.
We await your words earnestly my frend.
The King of Burgundy has talked to his advisors and together, they have come up with a deal, ensuring a few more provinces to the Chinese Empire, we hope that they will be accepted, as we wish good relations with China.
- Burgundy will be allowed to annex the whole of Navaho.
- China will be allowed to colonise four provinces south of the Colorado River, namely Altar, Canyon, Salton and Empalme.
- Arizona will be Burgundian.
We also wish to remind the Emperor of China that the Chinese sphere of influence is vastly bigger in Asia than the Burgundian is in Europe, thus we would want more of North America. We do not have the same possibilites to expand in our mainland as China has. China also has access to two gold provinces on the west coast and Burdundy has access to none in its sphere of influence.
We hope that this will be accepted by China as we have now given up four provinces regarded as Burgundian by the whole Burgundian nation. We hope that the relations between the two countries will get better and that no bloodshed is needed to set the borders between us.
Yours Truly, Aubrey I, King of Burgundy.
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Three Nation Treaty
Between China, Burgandy and Spain: 1523 AD 60th cycle of Chinese calender.
To China in North America:
Border between Spain and Chinese possesions is to be: Sacramento, Inyio, Tonopah, and Sierrra Nevada.
Arizona and Namaho are to be given to Burgandy.
The Provences consisting of the Philipines: Mindano, Samar, Mindoro, Palawan, Luzon are ot be seeded by lvl colonies by China and sold to Spain for a lump sum of 1000 ducates.
Spain is to recognize Chinese sozerny over Indonesia and the rest of Oceania while reciprically China is to recognize Spainish claims on South America.
*edit forgot to add* Also China cedes all claims on the 4 provences protruding like a tumor from California to Spain.
Spain Burgandy and China all agree to adhere to these agreements and to act towards and establishment of a strategic partnetship in the Far East and the America's.
Between China, Burgandy and Spain: 1523 AD 60th cycle of Chinese calender.
To China in North America:
Border between Spain and Chinese possesions is to be: Sacramento, Inyio, Tonopah, and Sierrra Nevada.
Arizona and Namaho are to be given to Burgandy.
The Provences consisting of the Philipines: Mindano, Samar, Mindoro, Palawan, Luzon are ot be seeded by lvl colonies by China and sold to Spain for a lump sum of 1000 ducates.
Spain is to recognize Chinese sozerny over Indonesia and the rest of Oceania while reciprically China is to recognize Spainish claims on South America.
*edit forgot to add* Also China cedes all claims on the 4 provences protruding like a tumor from California to Spain.
Spain Burgandy and China all agree to adhere to these agreements and to act towards and establishment of a strategic partnetship in the Far East and the America's.
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Aubrey I, King of Burgundy confirms this agreement, and wishes the Emperor of China and King of Spain well.
The Heavenly Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, with the Mandate of Heaven to rule the Middle Kingdom wishes to offer our condolences to the Polish and Hungarian lives lost in the fruitless wars between their nations.
As such we recognize that this war is because of a misunderstanding of who has legitmate claims on Siberia, and so we, the representative of the Chinese people's wish to offer our services as a neutral and unbiased arbitator of the dispute inorder to find a diplomatic solution to the problem.
However we freely admit that this is also in our interests, as we do not wish to anger one side, for we understand that whoever controls siberia will become our longterm neighbours for years if not centuries to come. And we do not wish to see one or the other angered and displaced and in such earning their malice and displeasure.
We would like to begin the first round of negotiations as soon as possible with my own proposal.
The territories in Siberia in question are 58 in total, assuming a cost of 15 a prov it is 870 ducates in total plus 58 or so per Hungarian colony.
Since they'res 3-6 such colonies as well the cost is then 1000 or so.
I suggest that Poland may have full access to Siberia and Hungary renouncing said claims for:
Poland Pays Hungary 1000 Ducates.
Poland Recognizes Hungaries Claim to Persia and subsequent sphere of influence.
Poland agrees to a 25 years Non Agression Pact with Hungary to be negotiatiable once every 5 years after 1548. There is to be in no circumstance dowing Hungary in this 25 year time period unless the treaty has been voided.
However:
Hungary Recognizes Poland is now the rightful owner of every future Siberian and Ural Provence including the 3-6 current ones Hungary owns.
Both sides Agree to work towards common ground and to try to preserve the peace.
Void clause: The treaty is null and void the moment Poland as a nation ceases to exist, that one side or another breaks the treaty.
I would like to know what the two of you think.
As such we recognize that this war is because of a misunderstanding of who has legitmate claims on Siberia, and so we, the representative of the Chinese people's wish to offer our services as a neutral and unbiased arbitator of the dispute inorder to find a diplomatic solution to the problem.
However we freely admit that this is also in our interests, as we do not wish to anger one side, for we understand that whoever controls siberia will become our longterm neighbours for years if not centuries to come. And we do not wish to see one or the other angered and displaced and in such earning their malice and displeasure.
We would like to begin the first round of negotiations as soon as possible with my own proposal.
The territories in Siberia in question are 58 in total, assuming a cost of 15 a prov it is 870 ducates in total plus 58 or so per Hungarian colony.
Since they'res 3-6 such colonies as well the cost is then 1000 or so.
I suggest that Poland may have full access to Siberia and Hungary renouncing said claims for:
Poland Pays Hungary 1000 Ducates.
Poland Recognizes Hungaries Claim to Persia and subsequent sphere of influence.
Poland agrees to a 25 years Non Agression Pact with Hungary to be negotiatiable once every 5 years after 1548. There is to be in no circumstance dowing Hungary in this 25 year time period unless the treaty has been voided.
However:
Hungary Recognizes Poland is now the rightful owner of every future Siberian and Ural Provence including the 3-6 current ones Hungary owns.
Both sides Agree to work towards common ground and to try to preserve the peace.
Void clause: The treaty is null and void the moment Poland as a nation ceases to exist, that one side or another breaks the treaty.
I would like to know what the two of you think.
The Three Nation Treaty between China, SPain and Burgandy is to have the following admenments.
The following admendments have been agreed upon by the King of Spain and the Emperor of China.
Sid Meier said:
The following admendments have been agreed upon by the King of Spain and the Emperor of China.
Håkon, fifth of that Name, by the Grace of God and by the will of the Yngling Ting, King of Norway and Denmark, King of Sweden, the Wends and the Goths, Grand Duke of Finland, Czar of the Trans-Volga Rus, Protector of the German Volk, Admiral of the Ocean Sea, Duke of Gotland and Iceland, Prince of Lord Novgorod the Great, Count of Bergen, Akershus, and sundry other places, Defender of the Faith, hereby announces :
Primo. Due to the corruption and simony of the Papal Court, which has for long years been a stench in the nostrils of the Faithful; due to the arrogance, impiety, and venality of the man, Salvador, who pretends to the titles Bishop of Rome and Vicar of Christ, which authority he shamefully abuses; because these abuses, which We have long sought to correct by peaceful means, have continued and grown worse; and because We therefore see no further hope of reconciliation with the present Church; therefore, the Lutheran Evangelic religion shall henceforth be the official religion of the Greater Norwegian Realm. All who confess to that religion shall therefore be bound to bring their children up in the same. Jews and Jesuits remain unwelcome in the Realm.
Secundus. In order to protect the Protestant peoples of Hinterpommern and Germany, whose governments have shamefully oppressed their consciences, We hereby announce that a state of War exists between the Norwegian Realm and the state of Stettin; this War shall not end until adequate freedom of conscience exists for the German people.
Tertius. We hope to remain on cordial terms with Our most esteemed fellow Monarchs and Sovereigns; but We call upon them, as brothers in Christ, to search their consciences and rebel against the false Pope and the corrupt Church, that is the Whore of Babylon spoken of in Revelations.
Primo. Due to the corruption and simony of the Papal Court, which has for long years been a stench in the nostrils of the Faithful; due to the arrogance, impiety, and venality of the man, Salvador, who pretends to the titles Bishop of Rome and Vicar of Christ, which authority he shamefully abuses; because these abuses, which We have long sought to correct by peaceful means, have continued and grown worse; and because We therefore see no further hope of reconciliation with the present Church; therefore, the Lutheran Evangelic religion shall henceforth be the official religion of the Greater Norwegian Realm. All who confess to that religion shall therefore be bound to bring their children up in the same. Jews and Jesuits remain unwelcome in the Realm.
Secundus. In order to protect the Protestant peoples of Hinterpommern and Germany, whose governments have shamefully oppressed their consciences, We hereby announce that a state of War exists between the Norwegian Realm and the state of Stettin; this War shall not end until adequate freedom of conscience exists for the German people.
Tertius. We hope to remain on cordial terms with Our most esteemed fellow Monarchs and Sovereigns; but We call upon them, as brothers in Christ, to search their consciences and rebel against the false Pope and the corrupt Church, that is the Whore of Babylon spoken of in Revelations.
Given this first day in 1523, by Our seal :
((you are enjoying this arent you KoM? ))
The Emperor of China hereby wishes to announce its adherence to a No-First-Use policy following the lead of Norway to the burning of Trade posts in the America's and the Pacific Rim and will only resort to such violence in responce to such barbaric attrocities and begs all other nations to follow our lead.
))The Emperor of China hereby wishes to announce its adherence to a No-First-Use policy following the lead of Norway to the burning of Trade posts in the America's and the Pacific Rim and will only resort to such violence in responce to such barbaric attrocities and begs all other nations to follow our lead.
The King of Burgundy, Aubrey I, will not follow the Lutheran Evangelic religion, as a betrayal of the Pope, in these times of need when Italy is showing increasing hostility towards the Pope, we shall not abandon him.
The followers of the Lutheran religion shall mercilessly be driven out of Burgundy, as we have no tolerance for those who commit treason to the crown or the Pope.
Yet we hope that the relations between Norway and Burgundy will improve even though our beliefs may differ from one another. We now have a border which is in no direct dispute of either of our land claims and thus no more bloodshed will be needed, we hope that wealth and prosperity increases in Norway, even though they have turned away from the only true God.
Yours Truly, Aubrey I, King of Burgundy and the leader of the Catholic Europe.
The followers of the Lutheran religion shall mercilessly be driven out of Burgundy, as we have no tolerance for those who commit treason to the crown or the Pope.
Yet we hope that the relations between Norway and Burgundy will improve even though our beliefs may differ from one another. We now have a border which is in no direct dispute of either of our land claims and thus no more bloodshed will be needed, we hope that wealth and prosperity increases in Norway, even though they have turned away from the only true God.
Yours Truly, Aubrey I, King of Burgundy and the leader of the Catholic Europe.
The great King of Italia, Davide I, sees Burgundy's accusation as a unjust one. The Pope, and traitors in Sicily, were continually building up men for war with Italy. At the time of the attack, there were over 100,000 men readied to attack the soveriegn nation of Italy. However, we have granted the pope lands in the middle of Roma, centered around St. Paul's Cathedral, and we have granted him independance.
However wrong Burgundy is about our relations with the Pope, we also will drive all traitors to the Pope out of our lands, and will use our newfound economic prosperity to help Burgundy in doing so as well.
Regards,
Davide I, King of Italia, Defender of the Pope, Emir of Oman.
However wrong Burgundy is about our relations with the Pope, we also will drive all traitors to the Pope out of our lands, and will use our newfound economic prosperity to help Burgundy in doing so as well.
Regards,
Davide I, King of Italia, Defender of the Pope, Emir of Oman.
Ramiro I, Emperor of The Holy Roman Empire and Iberia, King of Portugal, Castile, Leon, Navarra and Aragon, has entitled me, his loyal subject, do deliver the following ultimatum to the Hungarian Monarch:
Hungary will be forced to sell Medina to Spain for a large sum of gold, nothing less then 1000 gold coins. Shall the Hungarian Court refuse such a magnificient agreement, the Spaniards promise to take Medina by force, right after the current truce expires. But if war erupts, the Emperor promises to punish the Hungarians by taking more land as well.
OOC: You would be more then wise to accept this. Medina got a very big RR, and is already being besieged by rebels. It will defect to me no matter what. You could also use the cash i am willingly to give you, to your less peaceful intentions versus Italy.
Hungary will be forced to sell Medina to Spain for a large sum of gold, nothing less then 1000 gold coins. Shall the Hungarian Court refuse such a magnificient agreement, the Spaniards promise to take Medina by force, right after the current truce expires. But if war erupts, the Emperor promises to punish the Hungarians by taking more land as well.
OOC: You would be more then wise to accept this. Medina got a very big RR, and is already being besieged by rebels. It will defect to me no matter what. You could also use the cash i am willingly to give you, to your less peaceful intentions versus Italy.