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Leopold's son dosn't have his magnificant red beard?

must surely be of inferior stock, no?

Also, I stand by my earlier questioning of the Ducal competence!
 

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Leopold got it right when he said he was witty - this continues to be very entertaining :)
 

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I'd vote:

Some
Some
A Lot
A Lot


That said, does this count as interactivity?

Thanks.

I did not think about that, but I do not think so - this is not a massive AAR with 400 pages :D.
Also, considering the post counts here ;).

Leopold's son dosn't have his magnificant red beard?

must surely be of inferior stock, no?

Also, I stand by my earlier questioning of the Ducal competence!

It is not his son, it is his brother.

Poor Leopold. Everybody is against him.

You can of course continue voting, it will take some time before I get to 1181 ;).

Leopold got it right when he said he was witty - this continues to be very entertaining :)

As always, thank you :). I hope you will enjoy the next, interesting but a bit shorter chapter.
 

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Chapter Nine - Future holds nothing but pain and sorrow​
(at least for someone)

Argh! The stupid leg hurts more and more. I can only sit and lie and sit and lie...I hate the world!

The Bohemian morons are so slow-witted that they cannot understand the war against Poland has to end. I should help the new king to realise that.

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This way they will revolt against the Kaiser before they can cause any more harm and then be destroyed in one decisive blow. The Empire must stay strong.

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No! No! This will mean the end of the German Reich! But I shall not concede! I will destroy them, I will destroy them all!

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I name Thomas the Count of Styria and Marshal of the realm. The pain is simply too much...I cannot concentrate on managing this puny March - Thomas will have to help me. I will now only focus on securing the future of the Empire. Because I am the only one who cares about it. Everyone else simply wants to steal more and more from it. But the Empire must stay strong.

Though...what will happen when I die? Thomas, you will have to continue my work. We have a mission. And history will remember us. Oh God, I do not want to die! Please! I am so afraid...

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Idiots! I am surrounded by fools and idiots! The Kaiser hates me and so does Vladislav...they both are so incompetent so it hurts me in my heart. This will not end well.

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And hear it starts, as I predicted.

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No, no, no. The Empire is doomed. Doomed because of that stupid Premyslid!

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Lord Chancellor convinced me to get married. He says that it will help my reputation. He is surely against me. But I am too weak to oppose him. I will marry that silly Slavic girl. From Croatia. But I will send her to the Melk Abbey. Heh. Heheh. She will never leave it! I am still so cunning. And when the world sees my future plans! They will fall before me. Like in the good old times...arghhh.

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The Kaiser invited me to see his grand opening of an Imperial university in Würzburg. Mathias the Wise. The Wise? No, the Fool at best. And now he is mocking me! Look at me - this is the end of famed Duke Leopold? Mocked and hated by the Kaiser? By an incompetent moron whose greatgreatgrandfather was a landless bastard of a von Babenberger? How can the Reich be so rotten? It is a treachery! Treachery everywhere.

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And now even my own people plot against me! Fools, morons, dorks! Everyone is against me! But you shall see, you will see, argghh! Heh. Heheh. Heheheheh!

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Thomas...rule well, continue my quest for glory, I...predict you...grand future. Aaargh. The...Empire must......must stay...strong, Thomas, darling...aww! No, God, save me...please, I beg you! I...do not want...to die...

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Thomas von Babenberg is approaching the castle in Vienna. He is returning from the Styrian March where he prepared for the inauguration ceremony.
'Poor Leopold. A little bit weird but he liked me. And I am his successor. I will rule well, brother.' he thinks while he is riding through the castle gate.

Thomas enters the ducal hall where he sees...Jadviga. Jadviga holding a little boy in her arms.
'Dear brother-in-law, you have finally arrived. I hereby name you the lord Regent of your nephew, Duke Leopold IV.'

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And the young Styrian Count just stands there, puzzled, baffled and confused...
 
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Thanks.

I did not think about that, but I do not think so - this is not a massive AAR with 400 pages :D.
Also, considering the post counts here ;).



It is not his son, it is his brother.

Poor Leopold. Everybody is against him.

You can of course continue voting, it will take some time before I get to 1181 ;).



As always, thank you :). I hope you will enjoy the next, interesting but a bit shorter chapter.

God damnit, my mind must be slipping, completely forgot it was his brother, not a son s:

must be more ill than i thought, but hopefully his son will turn out with a red beard then!

Also, did that turn of events disrupt your plans?
 

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A... A son? This cannot be! Poor Thomas.

[And, I must say, I'm glad Kiev won back the counties from Bohemia - the Empire just looked too... Spindly and wrong. (I have border-OCD :))]
 

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Just wanted to say I am enjoying this AAR. A bit more information on the various people of your dynasty and the world in general would be nice.
 

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God damnit, my mind must be slipping, completely forgot it was his brother, not a son s:

must be more ill than i thought, but hopefully his son will turn out with a red beard then!

Also, did that turn of events disrupt your plans?

I tend to roleplay the characters so any plans Leopold III had are gone now.

Bwa ha ha. Leopold probably didn't notice Jadviga going pregnant? Perhaps he didn't remember having sex with her? :eek:

You will find out in the next chapter ;).

A... A son? This cannot be! Poor Thomas.

[And, I must say, I'm glad Kiev won back the counties from Bohemia - the Empire just looked too... Spindly and wrong. (I have border-OCD :))]

One heck of an AAR! :)

Yeah, poor Thomas :/. He could provide many years of fun given his stats and traits.

Actually, in CK2 my B-OCD happily sleeps :D.

Lol...I got a feeling this won't end well for the young man.

Which one you mean :D? But yes, for one of them it will definitely end badly.

Just wanted to say I am enjoying this AAR. A bit more information on the various people of your dynasty and the world in general would be nice.

The grand Creator himself! And I thought that his existence was just rumors and CK2+ arrived on a stone desk carried by angels...no, really, I am enjoying your mod.

In 1181 I will provide general overview.

Also: The next chapter will be written a bit differently (in order to reflect the ruler - for me it is a bit hard to write wittily about a character who did so much...).

Edit: I changed my mind. I will try to be witty. Hopefully the change will be visible.

Update coming later today. Hopefully.
 
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Chapter 10 - Warrior of Christ​

The story-teller is slowly walking up the stairs leading from the ducal dungeon and dusting his coat off. Even though the situation starts to look too dangerously similar to the Never-ending Story, he grins: 'I have suffered during the entire Leopold III's rule. As my revenge, I shall tell this chapter as a...History Book!'

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(it is not Santa Claus, it is Leopold IV with his two beloved sons - Siegfried and Luipold)

We all know Leopold IV von Babenberg, the patron saint of Austria. That famous Duke whose life is covered by so many myths that the real story sometimes can't be even found. So what do we actually know? Well, for start, the Princeps Terrae (as he called himself) was a little bit more lazy and fatter than the historical paintings depict, he did not actually arrived in Vienna after the Battle of Villach carried by angels and almost all his deeds were much more focused on temporal things than you would expect from the contemporary chronicles, describing him as a pious man, devoting his entire life only to serving the Lord. Actually you can be pretty sure that he was a pious man, but one with a large two-handed sword. That makes the entire Deus lo Vult thing much more convincing. So, without any more delays, here it is, the entire story of a man who is considered to have risen the House of Babenberg from the Alps to the international scene, from his early years to the bitter end...

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It all started in September, 1116 when Leopold III von Babenberg, the Wicked Duke (as he was called by his opponents, or better - everyone else than his brother. Sometimes.) married the Croatian Princess, Jadviga Trpimirovic. He did so only to appease his advisors (Leopold was already in his 40s so it was weird that he still was not married - it even led to creation and spread of many ill rumours throughout the Empire) and to strengthen his position in the realm, as he was in disfavor of the Kaiser and almost every other ruler in Germany.

Anyway, he planned only to marry her, spend with her only the first night and then lock her in the Abbey of Melk. Whether he thought he was impotent or that when it was the first time, she could not get pregnant, is not known. The fact is, that after a while in the Abbey, the Princess discovered that she was with a child.

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Only thanks to the help of Bishop Nicholaus of Melk, she was not immediately taken to the Duke - it was known that he adored (I said - no ill rumours) his half-brother, Thomas and named him his only legitimate successor. But according to the Salic Law, if Jadviga's future child would be a boy, he would be the rightful heir to the March. Thanks God, Nicholaus was a member of a group opposing the Duke and 'that Styrian brat' (as they called the would-be Duke due to his gregarious and friendly nature) so he supported (many times) Jadviga during her stay in Melk.

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After nine months, Jadviga gave birth to two children, named according to the Babenberg tradition Leopold and Adelheid (one legend says that von Babenbergers hated chroniclers and future history researchers) so that they would look even more as the legitimate von Babenbergers. They were both secretly betrothed to nearby rulers to secure support for little Leopold's claim - Leopold to Milada Premyslid and Adelheid to Károly Arpád.

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Jadviga had one more child - a girl, Jutte. Though she was officially proclaimed a von Babenberger, it is physically impossible for Leopold III to be her father. More likely, she was a daughter of Nicholaus (I know, I know, but do you know that celibate is meant to last the whole life? I am sure that they did not tell us in the seminary) who later falsified her birth documents. She might look insignificant to you but she is going to play a large role in the story later on.

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In December, Leopold III finally died because of his old war wounds and the time to act came. While Thomas was preparing for the ducal coronation in Styria and everybody else celebrating, erm, mourning, Nicholaus, together with Jadviga and her children traveled to the Vienna Castle under the pretext of the coronation as it was traditionally carried out by the Melk's Bishop. There he gained the support of local lords and vassals of the duchy (not hard, considering he also brought the key to the castle's wine cellar) and crowned young Leopold the Duke and Margrave of Austria and Tyrol. When Thomas arrived, he was furious. Even though he was declared the Lord Regent according to the tradition, everyone knew that the civil war was inevitable.

It took only a month for it to start.

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Nicholaus was named (read: named himself) the new Lord Regent and the Marshal of the loyalist forces and assembled the army to fight treacherous Thomas. The only actual (and decisive) battle took place in Hungary, near the town of Szombathely, where the Styrian army was preparing to circumvent their enemy and take Vienna by surprise from the East. But Nicholaus, a skilled commander (you know, when Vienna became such a fortress, the bears chose a different place to abuse), anticipated that move and led his army to meet Thomas there. The battle was tough and the fighting really intensive. (not really for Thomas, though - he employed his late brother's tactics of commanding from a nearby hill.) But when the day was over, the victory was Nicholaus's...post mortem. The Bishop of Melk himself paid his life for defending the ducal crown. Bad for him. Nobody else cared - OK, maybe except Jadviga.

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When all remaining Styrian soldiers gave up, Thomas was brought to Vienna in chains. Hermann von Sponheim, the Spymaster and the third Lord Regent, accused him of treason and threw him into the castle's dungeon where he would spend the rest of his life and, after many years, die. Sad end for Thomas. But most historians agree that if he ascended to the throne and continued his brother's politics, it would mean the definitive end of the von Babenberg rule in Austria (and more fun but that is a relative measure). Even little Leo was already stained by his father's deeds.

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Hermann then convinced Jadviga to grant him the revoked County of Steiermark. Yes, Jadviga was mere a puppet in the hands of the ducal Regents.

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Three years later, Hermann declared himself the guardian of both of the children and tore the remaining influence the Croat Princess had on ruling the March.

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(Hermann von Sponheim, contemporary drawing)

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(the question stays: Is it better to smash heathens or infidels?)

In 1124, while the Count of Steiermark was enjoying his unlimited power (Power! Unlimited power!) over the Duchy, Leopold was sent to Melk to be educated by the local monks. The daily routine of preaching and bear-killing will have great influence on his entire life.

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But Hermann's revelry should not have lasted for long - three years later, he died. Not as epic as The Return of the Duke, but still. Anyway, his death has not been fully explained yet. It is possible, that some loyalists felt that he was starting to pose a threat, considering his scheming abilities. The Archbishop of Salzburg became the new (fourth - is it the children or what?) Lord Regent and Guardian of the Duke.

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(eating or smashing - this dilemma will haunt Leopold during his entire life, most times solved by the third variant - doing nothing)

Many critics say that Poppo was a terrible menthol, erm, mentor. His approach to the education had many negative effects on the Duke. He stopped doing his homework (and even bear-killing) and started over-eating. But nothing is black or white:

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And even:

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(not too hard with grandfather's sword)

The Archbishop helped Leopold to fight the curse of his father, fear. This act is even more worth noting as Poppo himself fought this weakness but without success. He was also helpful in different matters:

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Everyone shall be struck by the sword equally. That is the trick, Leo.

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But Leopold's childhood was not always so bright. While he was growing up, Kaiser Mathias the Wise was fighting on many fronts. The Empire regained many lost holdings in Lombardy but faced the Danish invasion in the North. The Kievan Grand Prince also continued his Drang nach Westen together with another Hungarian attack, that time for the Duchy of Moravia. The March was inevitably plundered by the Arpád hordes as it had been decades ago under Leopold II.

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In 1133, Leopold IV finally turned sixteen. As did his sister who was immediately sent to Hungary. He himself married Countess Milada, or actually Duchess Milada of Moravia as she had helped Károly against her own kin and so she had been rewarded. Yeah, not only von Babenbergers understand the basic principles of diplomacy.

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The would-be Princeps Terrae inherited his father's eyes and taste for beards. (And of course his Latin dictionary.) But that was everything they shared.

And so Leopold had grown up to be a righteous and just holy warrior. And his journey had just started...
 

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That monk is a bit rubbish if his idea of a 'church education' is eating lots and doing nothing. Actually, when you put it like that... ;)

Nice to see another update - now onto greater things under Leo IV!
 

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Just my €0.02. But I think Leopold III would have been better with a slightly different name, oh, lets say Edmond, and he should have worn clothes of a different colour, black for example, and finally, he should have had a heraldic animal on his coat of arms, an adder for example.;)

Great AAR, KUTGW.
 

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That monk is a bit rubbish if his idea of a 'church education' is eating lots and doing nothing. Actually, when you put it like that... ;)

Nice to see another update - now onto greater things under Leo IV!

I can safely assure you that the next chapter includes no significant things. You probably should not read it at all.

He's not a redhead :(

But I found this change in writing quite amusing actually :)

No :/. But maybe the gens will survive?

Thanks :). I will try that style more times.

Just my €0.02. But I think Leopold III would have been better with a slightly different name, oh, lets say Edmond, and he should have worn clothes of a different colour, black for example, and finally, he should have had a heraldic animal on his coat of arms, an adder for example.;)

Great AAR, KUTGW.

Thanks and welcome on board :).

I simply can't see how you can compare Lord Blackadder and the Shadow at all.
 

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Chapter Eleven - Children, Lovers and Boredom​

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Two years into the Leopold's reign, his younger sister Jutte came of age and...

'Wait! It is my reign, so I would like to point out some things. At first, my core family - I have
- one dead father
- one locked-up uncle
- one insignificant mother
- one significant other
- two sisters

My mother, Jadviga is a Croatian Princess. Yeah, a real Princess. Since I found out that my Duchy actually borders with Croatia, I has been there with her some times and it's so lovely there. I would so want to go there to my grandpa on holidays. If he was not dead, that is. Sadly, my uncle is not so warm-welcoming. But still, I hope that I will return there one day. Anyway, my mother will die 25 years from today, with no further role in our realm.

My dear Milada of Moravia is a bit queer - she is not much interested in, you know, making love, though I am able to convince her. Sometimes. Once a year or two. The result is usually a brand new baby. She will grant me seven children and...strange, I can't remember her dying.

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(Cothilda and Guthilda - that sounds like some awesome dynamic duo)

I will simply not name any my son Leopold as that name has blood on its hands. OK, I named one Luipold but that does not count. Yeah, it does not. Deus et this sword lo Vult.

Adelheid, my twin sister will please Charles of Hungary with, again, seven children.

Jutte, who just came of age, is going to enter a matrilineal marriage with Dietpold von Andechs, fifth child of the current Holy Roman Emperor. She will die while giving birth to Dietpold's fourth child.

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So, that is my family. And one more thing - let's institute my house rules:
1. Serve the Lord in heavenly things and the Kaiser in the temporal ones
2. No assassination
3. No plotting

What? Oh, come on, it is going to be fun, I promise! Yes, it will be fun without killing and plotting. Look, I still have this awesome sword!'

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During the next two years, no interesting thing happened. But then:

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Yes, that large double-blob is one vassal of the Empire. It is the reborn Kingdom of Lotharingia. Otto Chatenois simply inherited the Chatenois duchies of both Lorraines and Luxembourg and as well the Billung ones - Brunswick, Oldenburg and Saxony. Leopold's father would probably have a stroke if he saw that.

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Mathias the Wise ascends to the so-called EPCC (Ernest profi-class of cunningness) by allying a dead King...

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and descends back when he calculates that the best move to counterattack the Chatenois's growing power is to grant them even more land. Leopold III's skull in the von Babenberger tomb explodes.

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After another three years of boredom, erm, planned waiting, Leopold decides to improve his mood by...wait for it...fasting! Yeah! So fun!

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(that is what I call a New Year's resolution)

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The Duke's fasting has lead to a collapse of the boar and deer meat trade. Famine starts to spread throughout Austria.

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And this is not a déja vu:

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'OK, we are probably having a problem here. Eginolf?'
Eginolf drops the big bag he is carrying: 'Yes, sir?'
'Is everything fine with our finances?'
'Yes, of course.'
'Thank you. You can go.'

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Tick. Tick. We jump another two years, it is really fun, exactly as Leopold IV promised. The March has started to recover from the Meat Crisis, Eginolf bought himself a small castle and...Thomas died.
Let's recapitulate his life:
1092 - is born
1113 - marries Richeza Premyslid
1115 - becomes the Count of Styria
1118 - his son is born (yes, he had a son! He with Richeza were kicked out of Steiermark the day Thomas lost his war. They embraced the von Babenberger tradition -
travelling through Germany and begging.)
1120 - revolts against Leopold IV and is imprisoned
1147 - dies in the prison


So a summary: Successes - 0, years in prison - 27, years not in prison - 28. Conclusion: Actually a good life.

...

Hey, it is the Middle Ages! Like 99% people had it even worse!

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When Siegried responded: And where is the Kingdom of Heaven?, the answer was: It is owned by Muslims. Ergo, poor Christians should be angry with the Muslims as they deny them happiness.

And that is what I call Medieval logic.

Later that year, Eginolf finished the construction of a new Abbey.

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'Well! I am tired of this! Last few years it has been only like praying and fasting and praying and fasting. And that fasting has not even been voluntary. It is not funny at all.

I am blood-thirsty. Really - I would probably drink even blood - I cannot afford to buy anything to drink. Or eat, when we are at it.
But these petty problems can wait (for some time). Now, let's conquer Chur from the devil-possessed Archbishop of Switzerland! Yes, he is devil-possessed. No, my Chancellor has not been there for ten years trying to fabricate a claim. No, he has been...somewhere else. Yes, somewhere else. Yes, he returned yesterday. And what?

The Lord told me to liberate the poor people from the Swiss yoke. Yeah, the Lord.

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(Archbishop of Switzerland, illustrative picture)

In order to defeat him, we will attack his army at Davos. And warriors of the March, you shall triumph! I will lead you personally and be in the first line of the attack! Tomorrow, we will be feasting on our dead enemies (of course, not literally...


...

...or?)!'

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Or maybe not.
 
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Quite entertaining use of looking into the future ;)

Poor, poor Thomas, but such is the life of the loosers.

Leopold seems like a bloodthirsty fella, who fancy family members? :)
 

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Quite entertaining use of looking into the future ;)

Poor, poor Thomas, but such is the life of the loosers.

Leopold seems like a bloodthirsty fella, who fancy family members? :)

You know, you can be as pious you want, but you cannot escape the family curse.

And thanks for your comments, they always make me think that I am doing this right ;).

Speaking of comments: I wonder where have all the commentators gone.

Anyway, I have played today and I can promise you that the next decades are going to be eventful through and through.

I will also try to update tonight.