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Why a Meath tag? The list of possible tags Riadach has posted would all be more important than a Meath tag (and a division of Ireland with those tags would be pretty nice, although the addition of Ossory/Osriage, although I would have the eastern Ulster province represent the Norman Earldom of Ulster under direct English rule), as Meath ceased to be an independent entity in the 12th century. A tag for the Pale would be either Kildare or Leinster...

The Earldom of Ulster would have been practically defunct by 1450s. The Antrim MacDonalds and the O'Neills of Clandeboy had divvied up their lands between them.

http://what-when-how.com/medieval-ireland/ua-neill-of-clandeboye-medieval-ireland/
 

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I don't think Kildare was ever an independent Irish kingdom, and Leinster only covered a part of the Pale (as well as already having its own tag and province). I still think that Meath/Mide makes more sense.

Kildare was a strong Irish earldom theoretically in vassalage to the English king, but with massive liberties. Remember the kings writ did not run outside the Pale at this stage. There was no united earldom of Meath.

Leinster should probably cover the mountainous lands to the very east of the country, dominated by the self-styled kings of Leinster who regularly raided and massacred the inhabitants of the Pale. The southern part of the province should be in the hands of Ormond, another over-mighty hiberno-Norman vassal of the English king (and rival to Kildare) who followed his writ only when it suited him.
 

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Wow, looks like Ukraine region is becoming a real powerhouse. In terms of old mechanics of course, I don't know how the new provinces will be balanced in the new system...
 

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Aww, men.
I really was hoping they would introduce Sibiu (Hermannstadt) as an own province in Hungary.
All I want is to bring glory to the Transylvanian Saxons but again I was denied.
Why no love for the Transylvanian Saxons, Paradox?
Such a shame.

Edit: typos.
 
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I hope Moravia (Bohemian province) will get really nice BT (or developement), if it's still one province compared to "Bohemia province", which now consists of 6 provinces. Historically, the economical ratio between Moravia and Bohemia was about 1:2. If you consider dividing Moravia into two provinces, I would name them "Brněnsko" and "Olmoucko" (after their capitals). Olomoucko could also have a part of Ratiboř (Těšínsko, it belonged almost exclusively to Bohemia and then Austria for the whole games's timeframe).
 
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Wow, looks like Ukraine region is becoming a real powerhouse. In terms of old mechanics of course, I don't know how the new provinces will be balanced in the new system...

Lithuanian and Russian region mayhaps be fixed in 1.13 or 1.14 patch. Or may be in 1.15 or ven 1.17 (in 2016).
 

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Kildare was a strong Irish earldom theoretically in vassalage to the English king, but with massive liberties. Remember the kings writ did not run outside the Pale at this stage. There was no united earldom of Meath.
Under Henry VII, the king's writ barely ran inside the Pale, for that matter. The administration of the lordship of Ireland was pretty firmly in the hands of the Fitzgeralds of Kildare under the two Garrets.

If I was doing mechanics for the lordship of Ireland, the King of England would have to give the lordship to one of their vassals, or spend admin power to keep it for themselves. English Lord Deputies didn't tend to last long in the job before the rebellion of Silken Thomas.
 

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More like 9+1-7+5-5=3.... Victoria 3 confirmed
"Half-Victorian Life 3, the upcoming critical release from Valve and Paradox Interactive, where you lead a nation to greatness in peace, and lead its armies to victory in war. In first-person."
 
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Under Henry VII, the king's writ barely ran inside the Pale, for that matter. The administration of the lordship of Ireland was pretty firmly in the hands of the Fitzgeralds of Kildare under the two Garrets.

If I was doing mechanics for the lordship of Ireland, the King of England would have to give the lordship to one of their vassals, or spend admin power to keep it for themselves. English Lord Deputies didn't tend to last long in the job before the rebellion of Silken Thomas.

I could envision something like that. The Lordship in PU, Ormond, Desmond and Kildare as vassals. Every year, an event fires where you have to give one of them the Lord Deputyship, or keep it for a courtier. Keeping it will give you all the revenues of the PU, but will piss off your vassals and raise their liberty desire. If you pick one of the vassals, however, they get the revenues, but the other two increase their animosity towards them (and their liberty desire towards you).
 

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Bohemia looks wierd

It's because Ostmark is too large. Whole area should look like this:

bohemia.png



Based on http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Zem%C4%9B_Koruny_%C4%8Desk%C3%A9.jpg.

Just transformed this map to EUIV's-like projection (Merkaartor?) and retraced it over teaser image.

I have even erased IMHO useless Eger province and split Moravia into two provinces, to keep the sum the same.
 

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I may be kinda topic digger, but Rowne is really-really wrong for the province name. Rivne (ex-Rowne) was a pretty small village in 1444 and was granted Magdeburg rights only in 1492. From mid XV and even now this land is known as core of Ukrainian Polissya (Polesia) with the most developed towns Kremenets and Dubno, know from IX century.
 
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Brandenburg has more provinces! This probably means they will finally be stronger and can survive, and eventually form Prussia. (Yeah I'm looking at you Pomerania)