Map Teaser: 6th of May 2015

[Sunspawn]

The Palaiologoi ruled Montferrat?

From smth like the 13-14th century.

 

[Mattymooz]

This is what I had in mind

At that point Ross isn't actually where ross is (link) you've only got the very bttom of the county there. Also, Angus is missing most of true Angus (link) and Fife contains a lot of land from Perthshire (link).

On top of this Perthshire will have a really awkward port in the firth of forth, as it does just about touch the sea tile. + Angus and Sutherland do actually touch even though it is not that obvious, so is not the best border.

Also, if you comapre the size of each province to the size of northumberland/cumbria, you see that, considering how rich each individual province is, they are very small (similar size or smaller than hre provinces).

IMO, although I like the idea of having a central province (like lanarkshire in my example) I don't think this is the way to do it as it is less historical than normal, and I don't think you can fix it if you want a province for fife, angus, perthshire and lotian as they are all so close to each other, it just makes it inaccurate

 

[WeissRaben]

Yes, but you could easily fit a dozen more there.

True, but should you?

(I think so, but I'm biased.)

The Palaiologoi ruled Montferrat?

Yep! Did up to the mid 16th century.

 

[PhoenixDown]

Wilno nasze!

Pilsudski would approve.

 

[Mattymooz]

True, but should you?

(I think so, but I'm biased.)

It may be easier to comment on this once we have played with it

 

[WeissRaben]

It may be easier to comment on this once we have played with it

No, well, it's not difficult to see how it would be possible to add a great number of provinces, at least in Northern Italy: Saluzzo, Aosta, Asti, Ivrea, Ticino, Valtellina, Alessandria, Bergamo, Padua, Belluno, Massa, Ravenna, Rimini, Bologna, Orbetello, Spoleto, Perugia, Viterbo. I could get EVEN more granular, find MORE cities worth of note, so that's not the point. The point is: do I think the provinces added in Italy could be more? Yes. Do I think more provinces are needed? Maybe. We'll see.

 

[klingonadmiral]

Muh epic Großgermania, it's like game was designed to be played in whole Europe and not just Brandenburg -> Prussia. Imagine that!

There would be absolutely 0 negative consequences of Kalisz smoothly connecting to Silesia. Of course Kalisz itself wasn't Prussian after 1815, but it approximates the Prussian borders much better than taking Posen only.

 

[witekgreg]

Lwów nasz!

also

Ryga nasza,
Wilno nasze!

Yeah, funny but in real life, in Poland, nobody cares if it was Polish or not ... maybe grannies or history enthusiasts For us economy of the country is important, not the territory expansion. For instance Russia has different point of view (with no offence to Russia of course)

 

[Mattymooz]

No, well, it's not difficult to see how it would be possible to add a great number of provinces, at least in Northern Italy: Saluzzo, Aosta, Asti, Ivrea, Ticino, Valtellina, Alessandria, Bergamo, Padua, Belluno, Massa, Ravenna, Rimini, Bologna, Orbetello, Spoleto, Perugia, Viterbo. I could get EVEN more granular, find MORE cities worth of note, so that's not the point. The point is: do I think the provinces added in Italy could be more? Yes. Do I think more provinces are needed? Maybe. We'll see.

Ah, but would any of them be good to click on or would they be the malta of italy? Will they have enough space to fit the unit models and city and stuff or will it be uetrcht? If you can't answer those you can't add new provinces

EDIT : OK, looking back I realise that yes malta is in italy, but you know what I mean

 

[radiatoren]

Very nice changes. Now I am wondering w hat parts of map are left yet as we have seen Italy, HRE, Prussia and Eastern Europe. Only British Isles?

Southern/central HRE, French/spanish mediterranian coast, scandinavia and the balkans comes to mind as potentials. They can do plenty of fun things like taking England, Scotland and Ireland separately, trolling with Iceland/Greenland and North Sea Isles etc.

I don't imagine they can keep it going for more than 3 months longer without making it obvious that they are stalling, but there seems to be plenty for more than 1 month if they need it.

 

[spinoza013]

At that point Ross isn't actually where ross is (link) you've only got the very bttom of the county there. Also, Angus is missing most of true Angus (link) and Fife contains a lot of land from Perthshire (link).

On top of this Perthshire will have a really awkward port in the firth of forth, as it does just about touch the sea tile. + Angus and Sutherland do actually touch even though it is not that obvious, so is not the best border.

Also, if you comapre the size of each province to the size of northumberland/cumbria, you see that, considering how rich each individual province is, they are very small (similar size or smaller than hre provinces).

IMO, although I like the idea of having a central province (like lanarkshire in my example) I don't think this is the way to do it as it is less historical than normal, and I don't think you can fix it if you want a province for fife, angus, perthshire and lotian as they are all so close to each other, it just makes it inaccurate

Yeah I made Fife bigger for game purposes cos let's face it if we were being so exact then vanilla is pretty laughable. Like I said you can change the names. Aberdeen, Moray, Atholl, whatever you think fits it's all abstracted to a degree. I think my example is pretty realistic so I guess we'll agree to disagree

 

[spinoza013]

Angus and Sutherland do actually touch even though it is not that obvious, so is not the best border.

I think that's more to do with the really ugly way they've drawn the Moray firth.

 

[EMT0]

That Saxony looks hot, and fun to play. But mostly hot.

 

[Me_]

From smth like the 13-14th century.

Now, that is one heck of a reason to add Montferrat.

 

[WeissRaben]

Ah, but would any of them be good to click on or would they be the malta of italy? Will they have enough space to fit the unit models and city and stuff or will it be uetrcht? If you can't answer those you can't add new provinces

EDIT : OK, looking back I realise that yes malta is in italy, but you know what I mean

Honestly, you could split Lombardia into 10 and its subdivisions wouldn't be unclickable. Provinces in Italy are not tiny, guys. Comparing them to the density of population and to important cities that could be reasonably represented, U-Tsang is small.

 

[neo120590]

RIP square memel.

 

[chrnno]

They probably mean that at speed 5 the game doesn't run faster than at speed X.

Well that doesn't really fit but I suppose people could be meaning to say that and failed completely but how would that work? All speeds scale to the computer so higher is faster even if someone's speed 4 is another's speed 2.

 

[WeissRaben]

Well that doesn't really fit but I suppose people could be meaning to say that and failed completely but how would that work? All speeds scale to the computer so higher is faster even if someone's speed 4 is another's speed 2.

Nope. Speeds 1-4 are fixed; Speed 5 is "as fast as the machine can go".

 

[Mattymooz]

Honestly, you could split Lombardia into 10 and its subdivisions wouldn't be unclickable. Provinces in Italy are not tiny, guys. Comparing them to the density of population and to important cities that could be reasonably represented, U-Tsang is small.

Well, yes in comparison, but smaller provinces are harder to click on and make look good. It's not just about making size comparable (we have BT for that as well) so yea

 

[Torugu]

Somewhere between 1 and 91755.

It's official. Release date for the next expansion has been confirmed as sometime between Mai 2015 and December 3779.